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| Important CDC Paper: High Virulent Clone Variant Of Lyme Now I saw this paper submitted on the CDC website in the New and Emerging Infectious Diseases section under the Ahead Of Print link. Apparently there is a clonal variant of Lyme Which has HIGH virulence called Borellia Burdgdofori Sensu Strictu. What is interesting is in a section of this paper also says that arthropods carry this, NOT a specific type of tick carry this pathogen. What is an arthropod? Basically ANYTHING with an exoskeloton. Here is the American Heritage Dictionary Definition Of an Arthhropod: NOUN: Any of numerous invertebrate animals of the phylum Arthropoda, including the insects, crustaceans, arachnids, and myriapods, that are characterized by a chitinous exoskeleton and a segmented body to which jointed appendages are articulated in pairs. Now some have insects recalled in their contraction of Morgellons Disease some do not. A mosquito however is an arthropod, snow fleas are an arthropod, mites are an arthropod, fleas I mean think about that. I even once talked to a former soldier from Iraq who got Morgellons Disease from their account from a scorpion. I have also heard of cases from spiders and centipedes. This would explain why Lyme Disease is becoming so rampant. Remember Most Lyme testing is 90 percent inaccurate. I had Igenex. Borellia showed up but in the United States supposed to have TWO double starred bands. On each test, I had a plus one on one of each of the double starred bands, which meant it was still present but at a low level. On the other bands I had borellia and the antibodies to it all over the place. In any other country in the world tests results alone would have been full blown Lyme only requires ONE double starred band. A Lyme literate doc does not go by just test results alone however. The only really reliable Lyme test is Igenex or perhaps Elisa. Most Lyme tests being 90 percent innacurate, will NEVER pick it up. May as well have the sample flushed down the toilet. Some doctors go by test results alone, by the two double starred band criteria (that is if EVEN an accurate test) . But ASK yourself should healthy people have borellia at ALL? No. Also remember is it possible some herbally treating Lyme can wipe the evidence of the borellia clean or to where non detectible even though it is still there? Just a thought there. Well what IS Clonal? That is an odd term. The Online Medical Dictionary defines it as this: clonal Pertaining to a clone species. Anyway, this article could explain why Lyme Disease is becoming more widespread, why Morgellons Disease is becoming more widespread, and why some with Morgellons recall insect bites from insects, arachnids, etc OTHER than just ticks (as Morgellons has been linked to Lyme Disease). This paper also states"The highly pathogenic clonal complex A has a prominent presence on both continents, which suggests its success in finding ecologic niches which enable it to infect a broad range of host and vector species. The same genetic basis of the ecologic invasiveness of the osC-A may be underlying its high viruleance to humans." Now this would explain ALOT regarding the many bizarre tales of how people contracted Morgellons Disease. It would also explain how Lyme Disease is becoming more widespread. I am glad I saw this CDC paper, it solves some mysteries. I will provide the link to this paper. Wide Distribution of a High Virulence Borellia Burdgoferi Clone In Europe and North America: http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/14/7/pdfs/07-0880.pdf . (LC) |
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| In case you haven't seen what happened on Saturday, September 27th, 2008, click here: http://www.lymerights.org/Pallone_v3.wmv Hilly |
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| Hilly, Wow. I had no idea there were State representatives who are passionate about the truth being found out about Lymes. I watched the almost half hour video and actually got chills seeing these men speak and be so forceful about this. God bless them!!!! Kritts |
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| speaking of Lymes...I can't retrieve ANY of my stored information from research since the geek squad sent my laptop out for repair and they CHANGED THE MOTHERBOARD. I know, I know....I should have backed up the info...and in a better brain/fogless situation I would certainly have done so. Maybe 5 years ago that is. In any case, there is a new test for Lyme disease which is supposedly accurate compared to the regular tests (Elisa and Western blot) does anyone remember what that test is? I want to have it done. Thanks, I am NOT having a good day and would be most grateful for this info. xoo Kritts |
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| me again. Here's the other bit of information (an excerpt) I had from the Dr.Clark Research Association: The important thing about lab diagnosing Lyme disease is to do the correct test. Most frequently, antibody tests are done for Lyme disease. They often come back negative. Often the result is a false negative. A much more reliable test is the LTT test for Lyme disease. LTT stands for Lymphocyte Transformation Test. This tests the white blood cells' reaction to the protein of Lyme bacteria. The reason this works better is because the body often does not seem to make antibodies or enough antibodies to detect Lyme disease on an antibody test. Kritts |
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| Thank you Kritts for finding the information on that test Ginger Savely recommended (CD57) . Hilly this is a real interesting video. I am glad you added this to the thread thank you both. I posted this CDC paper because apparently with this clone variant of Lyme which can use most anything with an exoskeloton as a vector, also highly virulent makes this an even more scary problem. I also posted the CDC paper because many with Morgellons disease have told me how OTHER insect vectors were involved when they became infected. I am weary of the ISDA and I am glad that someone on this previous link Hilly provided that Representative Christopher Smith Brings up the conflict the ISDA panel had on their panel. That many are left out in the cold by insurance companies because thanks to the ISDA Guidelines "Chronic Lyme does not exist" as the ISDA says, many are debilitated, misdiagnosed also could be because of the incompetance of the ISDA. Kritters I found a page talking about the CD57 test: Lyme CD57 Test Thanks you both! ![]() (LC) |
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| One thing which I also wanted to add is that with long term Lyme care, wheter natural and/or traditional care is monitoring. Those who oppose long term care do not even think about such things. Even with my traditional care I get my blood monitored, phone consultations and have doctor visits to make sure I am okay on my medicines. If they need to be changed or adjusted, they do so. I discuss everything I take, including naturals. So it is not just a matter of blindly throwing pills or naturals at a patient. A tiered appoach is what happens. Enough to regain function and to also help a patient be able to get their immune system back up on some level. (LC) |
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| Lady C... great to see you back....glad you seem to be progressing and under control now, that's so good. I wondered about the CD57 test and whether I should try to get that done. What meds are you on now ? pm me if you like. Yes, it was fun and so good to see those senators going at each other with such fervor... I really think things will get moving in a big way. Good to see all those conspirators who are in cahoots with the insurance companies getting exposed. Hilly x |
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