Nutraceutical Breakthroughs In Lyme Disease

[Sadsack]

Came across this most informative article about Lyme. It is (relatively) short but inclusive. Includes some information on treatments.

NUTRACEUTICALBREAKTHROUGHS IN LYME DISEASE

SS

[Kritters]

Fabulous, SS!

It's so very horrifying how Lyme, which was MAN MADE from manipulating mycoplasma fermentans and releasing it into the population, has been sneaking into people's lives creating so much pain and destruction.

I'm going to save this website and send to everyone I know.

thanks,
Kritts

[tcmgpt13]

A bit of history about lyme disease (just part of this interesting article):

https://www.americanscientist.org/is...int/issue.aspx

The Ecology of Lyme-Disease Risk

Complex interactions between seemingly unconnected phenomena determine risk of exposure to this expanding disease

Richard Ostfeld

This article originally appeared in the July-August 1997 issue of American Scientist.

Natural History of Lyme Disease

Lyme disease is mistakenly thought by many to be a new disease that first appeared late in the 1970s. In reality the erythema migrans syndrome—now recognized as indicative of Lyme disease—was described in Europe more than 80 years ago. At the time, it was correctly linked to bites from the tick Ixodes ricinis, although the causative microbial agent had not been established. In 1975 health specialists were called in to investigate a peculiar cluster of childhood arthritis cases in Lyme, Connecticut, and they found that many of the cases had been preceded by EM. Allan Steere at Tufts University and his colleagues suspected a link between the Connecticut EM cases and the earlier European ones, causing them to search for and eventually find highly abundant populations of ticks. At first, it was thought that the ticks represented a newly discovered species, which was named Ixodes dammini, but later evidence indicated that the specimens were simply members of northern populations of the previously described species Ixodes scapularis. Further medical detective work by Willy Burgdorfer at Rocky Mountain Labs and colleagues revealed that both the European and Connecticut ticks played host to B. burgdorferi, which had been previously undescribed.

Even in North America, Lyme disease almost certainly existed for thousands of years before its discovery in the 1970s. Native Americans and European colonists probably experienced the disease in the forested landscapes of the northeastern and north-central United States and the West Coast, but the symptoms went largely unrecognized, perhaps because of the prevalence of more serious, debilitating diseases. Early symptoms of Lyme disease are rather mild compared with those of cholera, typhus, tuberculosis and others that plagued early Americans, and acute Lyme disease is often a brief and self-limiting ailment. However, several weeks or months after initial infection, bacteria may begin dispersing away from the bite to distant sites in the body, to the knees and shoulders or to the central and peripheral nervous systems, where they can wreak havoc on joints and nerves, causing serious arthritic and neurological disorders.

Since 1990, between 9,000 and 14,000 cases of Lyme disease have been reported annually to federal health officials, although the true number of cases is unknown. The Lyme-disease epidemic has caused hysteria in some areas, which probably leads to the false reporting of some cases. But it is also likely that many cases of Lyme disease go unreported each year because health-care workers and patients are unfamiliar with the symptoms. In any event, Lyme disease is by far the most common vector-borne disease in the United States, surpassing malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, plague and others. Although Lyme disease is widespread in the United States, the northeastern seaboard from Maryland to Massachusetts, the upper Midwest and California have the highest numbers of cases.

[lamb]

I KNOW that Lyme's is the "origin" ! The disease itself has progressed to other insect vectors ( or perhaps previously undiscovered insect vectors)
The illustrious doc mentioned is no longer interested in the 41 plus band.

[Sadsack]

I don't necessarily believe the Mycoplasma theory - I think it is far more likely to be weaponized syphilis. One thing I do NOT believe is that it had been around before the 70's.

There are several parts to my reasoning:

This spirochete is pretty virulent and would have been a serious disease for centuries. It clearly is a novel infection, not, in this case, something that jumped from monkeys.
The government has experimented with syphilis for a very long time. They were clearly very interested in the long-term "proliferation" capabilities of spirochetes. It is a lot more likely that an ancient spirochete was "adapted" in a laboratory than taking Mycoplasma, which is a very different kind of organism, and turning it into a spirochete.
Given the proximity of Plum Island (and their activities there) and "ground zero" (Lyme, CT), it is very reasonable to suppose that it crossed the Long Island Sound.
And why has there been such a conspiracy to suppress information about Lyme, in particular that chronic Lyme (like tertiary syphilis) exists? And conspiracy is not too extreme a word for it - the word "cover-up" was even used in Congress in discussing the Lyme issue.
Lastly, read Burgdorfer's interview again....the NIH showing up at the door to make sure he didn't say certain things....and the way he ended the interview by saying "And I'm not telling you everything".

Too many smoking guns.

SS

[Seasprite]

Thank you SS for posting that informative link.

I have met two more Lyme patients yesterday and they don't know half this stuff.

I am a little concerned though that some of the articles on that site don't provide citations.
it sounds good, but how do we know they are not just trying to sell a product?

[Sadsack]

Seasprite -

It seems that most articles have some problems when it comes to this stuff. So much is really unknown, and so many of these articles are really speculative. Much of the time, if I provide a link to something, it's that I find it interesting and that it might have some nuggets.

I don't remember reading a single article that made me say "this is IT!".... more just food for thought, ya know??

SS

[lamb]

SS.... Au contraire my friend! former roomate's Mom
(1975) was one of the first folks id'd as Lyme ( a CT, LI, NYC) resident and within 5 years she was crippled horribly, stuck in a wheelchair. Dr AS mentioned in one of the articles was one of the pioneers. He was sued by the ct/ag. Had to move out of state. No longer sees patients.. unless they have a swollen knee.
tort lawyers need to be shot just for drill
This fellow could probably be a great resource but they are all afraid of being sued,... don't blame them
hmm...bankrupt my family and leave them destitute... or help all of these poor suffering slobs???
Morality Q's are never easy.