what do you all suggest?

[ineedhelp]

Hi everyone. I have been reading for a while on treatments on this forum. Some have worked others not so much. I know this morgs thing affects everyone differently. For me so far it has not been as bad as others but I am sure with time if I don't take care of it, it could possibly get worse.
I will in the future post pictures of things that I have noticed on my skin and symptoms I have felt throughout my body. I have had this for probably a year already and although many people on here do not feel they have infected anybody, it has been the opposite for me. I don't want to make this such a long story for now but for to make a long story short, I know there are flies involved coming out of me although I have not seen one come out I just know they do. Also, I make people itch when I am around them but I don't think I infect those people for the most part. The people who I know have been infected are the ones that I have spent a lot of time in their homes or they in mine. Now when I first began I used to get welts all over my body causing me to itch and get swollen lips and eyes. The one thing that stopped that was a hydrogen peroxide bath with salt. Those symptoms never return although others still exist. Of the people I have noticed have symptoms similiar to mine or some of ya'lls have never gotten welts, except for one. My two year old nephew. I am dying inside watching this happen while he cries and scratches. Luckily I don't live with him so if I don't see it, my heart doesn't feel it. I visit my sis home often and I stay for weeks to months at a time. All in that house have symptoms but he has welts. I swore the other night if I saw one more on him I would give him a one of those baths. Well tonight he had 7 all down his right leg. So tomorrow first thing he is getting bathed. Since their tubs don't work in holding water, I am planning to do this outside in a baby pool. My question is, how much should I use? When I did this bath, I did it many months ago. I do not remember if I should use iodized salt or not. Do you all recommend iodized, non iodized, sea salt, or epsom salt? and how much? I also didn't use baking soda but I have heard it is good to put in the bath as well. What do you all think? Measurements and types of salt would be very helpful. I would like to get this done asap and hope that at least those burning hurtful welts do not return. Any info would be much appreciated. I thank you all in advance for your support and advice. And I will post pictures as soon as I get out of here and get back to my home. Again, thanks!

[carla]

I'm so sorry you have this too.
I used to feel the same as you .People I've spent time with developed symptoms and I drove myself mad thinking about it.
But now I know more about it I can see it is everywhere already.I can see the fibers on people I've never met before.
If it helps no body else but me has developed full blown symtoms.
No one has ever said they have caught my disease.

Theres a few treatment suggestions here but it is a case of finding the best way for yourself.Living With Morgellons

I'm sure everyone will be happy to tell you how they get relief.

[ineedhelp]

Hi Carla! Thank you so much for your reply. Although my question wasn't really answered I still appreciate you being the first one to write to me. I had been checking this thread all day and nobody had any answers. I really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. I know I have found the answers on here myself on measurements but for adults and not for toddlers which is why I was concerned. I have noticed his welts are different than mine though. I use to get mine everyday and would last a few hours or so and would go away until later or the next day or two. But he doesn't seem to get them so often and his are extremely red and big. They do not look like normal welts to me. Not only do they look different but they last for days to at least a week. I have no idea why. I gave him a bath anyway with half box of baking soda, half box of salt and a 16 oz of hydrogen peroxide. I hope this helps him but he doesn't seem to be getting much sleep with all the scratching he does at night.
Since you mentioned fibers I must say I have never seen one come out of me. But I do see them flying around. I don't know if they were always there or that now I am just aware of them and my eye has been trained to move faster and detects anything in the air. It is too weird. Also, here where I am staying I sleep with this blanket that is cotton and when I grab it some fibers seem to stick on my finger nail and I put them under light and watch them move. Now I don't know if it's the AC that is making them move but they do move very oddly. I have put them on a table and they move, I put them under a glass and they stop but if I put them close to a plastic top like the baby bottle tops that are clear plastic, they seem to be a magnetic reaction. I am going to try to catch this movement with my camera phone. It is just sooo weird. I hope I can get this so you call can watch. I hope to make friends on here because my family and significant other refuse to touch the subject with me. They don't think I am crazy but they just rather ignore it. Sometimes I need to tell someone about a sensation that I had, or about something that I saw and have someone validate my thoughts and not make me feel so isolated and alone. I have noticed you all are a great support group to each other and I hope to join in discussions with you all. I don't know how much I can bring to the table as far as treatments and research but I will try my best. Again, thanks Carla for making me feel welcome.

[Katinka]

Hi Ineedhelp,
first of all ..welcome to this forum!

you know..I'm not into this 'bathing thing'..so I can't help you here..unfortunatelly, but I guess many other 'seniors' here can? Or do a 'search' on bath, baking soda or epsom salt...probably will find alot of information.

For my opinion...and it's only MY opinion...I think taking baths is the worst thing to do...
I believe we would be 'soaking' in pathogens...over and over again...getting reinfected by the water..which is IMO the main source of this disease...and adding 'stuff' doesn't kill or eliminate
these...sorry to say...but that's what I believe..

It's really bad little children are having 'this' and a shame there hasn't been
any official treatment found yet....I wonder, what 'they' are up to?

Anyway...I wish you all the best...and please feel free to ask any question.

Katinka

[pat]

Hi i need help( as do we all.)
Sorry you are having trouble with the little one.
I personally think that bathing /showering is good and stops the itching for a time.I get into a totally clean bath with various things added and i see the black specs and hairs emerge into the water.
Given his age I would think a good thing to try is Bug Arrest which can be bought from Tropical Traditions.It is effective and very mild.Use in bath and as a spray.
Also you could try lavender oil only 3 drops in bath needed and T Tree oil too.
I can't say what measurements to use re the peroxide,baking soda etc as I just throw it in bath liberally,but only small amounts would be used for a child.Though I can;t see baking powder doing nuch damage,epsom salts too should be ok.But do try to alternate the treatments and not use them all together as the morgs adapt very quickly to stuff.
Salt is salt at the end of the day and all will work.A brilliant one to add to bath and your food is Himalayan pink salt.This is very pure and contains 84 out of 92 essential minerals.
Try sending ladycolorado a private message,as she always has excellent advice for newbies
and knows of lots of stuff to use on children.Hope this helps some.

[posey]

Welcome Ineedhelp,

When I first realized what I had and not thinking touched something in a store and then thinking I had contaminted it, I bought it whether I needed it or not. I felt it was the right thing to do. As time passed and I saw "it" (fibers) hanging all over my geographical area in all the stores I no longer felt I had to buy things I touched.

In the past I always tried clothes on before I purchased them. Now I buy them, take them home to try on and then shower. I use to do this due to chronic pain but didn't shower right away after trying them on. Whatever doesn't fit I take back because they were most likely infected in the first place. I take a shower because of the possibility of different infection causing vectors being on/in them. But I see these fibers in every store whether it is new clothes or a second hand store.

Our related churches in my area have a second hand store which raises money for the Churches High School. The place is filled with them fibers hanging on all the clothes. However, it is interesting that I never saw these fibers in the store until it was remodeled and expanded due to doing so well with business.

I think these fibers come off of other shoppers and also are delivered to stores this way. What baffles me is with so many people who have this, why is there nothing ever said about it in the paper or on the worldwide tv cable news?? Why is this such a hush-hush big secret?? I believe there has to be others in my area with this but I have not heard of any.

I have a granddaughter, 2 1/2 yrs old and I will not go near her. I have told my son and daughter-in-law about it because I love them. My whole family knows and they don't treat me like a leper or the like. I don't attend church anymore because I am afraid of leaving something behind which an elder person, young child, persons with comprimised immune system, or pregnant woman might pick up. I go to pastors house for Communion and I have Church Services MP3s sent to me via U.S. mail.

Some of this may sound ridiculous but th fact is there are too many unknowns. I can't and won't jeopardize others even if it means I have to stay away from them for the resr of my life. My son and I are going to get webcams so I can see my granddaughter this way.

I am Christian and so many times since I realized what was going on with me I have wanted to die. I felt like taking all the pills of everything I have and going to sleep forever. I aske my husband to shoot me. I 'd get days when I just sob because all I wanted was ro die. This laid a heavy guilt on me because life is a precious gift from God.

I believe God took me to the Book of James, Chapter 1 in the new Testament and this has helped me tremendously. Since that day I no longer have suicidal ideation. However, I'm going to talk with a Christian counselor on an ongoing basis because everyone needs someone to talk to. We need to unload. We need someone to just listen.

I pray for all here, not individually but as a group, and you will be in those prayers too.

May God bless you and ease your burden; helping you with the things you are unsure of.

posey

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Hi, Ineed, Welcome -

There hasn't been too much published on recipes for children, that I know of. This is an area that has been neglected.

We sure could use a thread with this subject matter in it - it sounds like you're on the right track using the natural products with the baby's skin.

Maybe, when you find recipes/protocols that work - you could publish them out here for the next worried mother or grandmother that comes in?

And, some of you other mothers too, who are in tune with a child's skin - might help Ineed to buffer the adult recipes?

For instance, if a suggestion says to put one box of baking soda in the bath water, we can assume there's not as much water in the tub that an adult would be using, and to possibly cut the recipe by 3/4 - only put 1/4 box in the water?

And, do a search on 'help with lesions', 'protocols that help or work', 'lesion help', etc. and modify these adult strengths - and when you find what works, come back and create a thread for us, with 'children' in the title? Some examples could be: "Help for children's lesions", "Children's Recipes and Protocols", "What's Working for My Child", etc.

[Kritters]

Hello INH....

Do you know if you and/or your nephew's home has mold of any kind, or if there are any sewage, drainage, plumbing problems? Are they older buildings?

I have to disagree with my buddy Katink....the baths have helped me tremendously and if you shower instead, you're still getting the water on/in you for a good length of time. I use epsom salt, or baking soda, or sea salt or mineral salts or combination of them all including eucalyptus if my sinuses are acting up. Be sure to give him lots of salt to eat and be sure he gets vitamins daily. I just bought loose vitamin C to sprinkle on food and in juice so I don't have to swallow a lot of pills which give me gas as the gel dissolves. I get the gelcaps good quality vitamins. Be careful about which childrens vitamins you get because some are worse than not taking any at all.

Kritts

[posey]

Hey Kritts,

Your post really caught my attention. Are you well informed about mold/fungus in homes?

We have a deck which can be walked onto and is located right off the dining area. Actually about 5 ft. from me right now, and of course on a day as today the door is open. I'm currently watching Animal Planet.

When it rains the deck is totally slimy and spots of the deck are green slimy. To me this means it's moldy. I also believe we have a mold issue with our basement because when we have had heavy rains the cement walls get wet and damp and it has that musty smell. I told a derm. about these issues and he was concerned and ordered a chest x-ray, which turned up normal. But the type fungus which they are looking for I think is Aspergillus (sp).

As you go down into our basement if your turn and look at he steps there is all this fiber stuff connected together hanging from behind them. I believe, but do not know, they are "M" fibers.

I have also noticed fibers on the edges of wood doors. Actually I am going to start this wood door thing in a new thread to see if it brings attention to anyone else re their living environment.

posey

[Kritters]

Hi Posey,
I wouldn't say I'm well-informed about mold in homes per se....but I absolutely do believe this is involved with Morgellons, as is the water situation and in some cases, if not all, agrobacteria....bio-engineered cotton, etc. and how they all connect, I have no clue.

So many people on this forum have mold in their homes or some type of fungus. I think even that CANDIDA is a result of being exposed to mold when your body doesn't have enough good bacteria, or flora to balance the bad because of weakened immune systems. Aspergillis probably also.

Once it gets into our systems, I believe it attaches and combines with other things like bacteria, viruses, proteins, and creates a nasty physical situation.

Just my thoughts.... probably not what you were after...

Check out some of our FUNGUS THREADS......

here's one: Fungus

here's another: Mold


Kritts