I am new and scared.

[gigi22]

toniehj -

You came to the right place... and there are so many other forums out there which are good too for support. I used baking soda/salt, sovereign silver first aid gel, and DE on the "boil", and it is now healing. There's a mark still there, but it is flattened out and not sore at all. I haven't done anything more with it. Instead of sores, I am breaking out in pimple-type acne, especially on the face and back. I found that these pimples contain cysts, or larva of some type. I've been aggressively using skin treatments and doing internal supplements and praying that I do not develop lesions. I've read that many people to not have lesions. It may depend on the type of parasites you have or the level of infestation - I really don't know. or maybe they will show up later...

There are definitely alot of people out there with this condition that don't know it. People experiencing the crawling, itching:
Sensation like skin crawling - Undiagnosed Symptoms - MedHelp

and then there are those that don't yet have the crawling/itching (perhaps they haven't picked up this type of parasite?), but are noticing that bugs are being attracted to them:
Gnats or Fruit flies following me - Undiagnosed Symptoms - MedHelp

So, something in our body chemistry is different and attracting these things.

What I found is that there must be a fungal component to these fiber-like things. I have severe candida, and I would get really ill trying to clean my environment. I would feel the same feeling as if I had eaten mushrooms or sugar (terrible temperature spikes, fever-like). These things are being shed off our bodies into the environment. So, if you are suffering from something similar to me, and especially if you have been exposed to mold, it is very important that you get your environment cleaned up in order to start feeling better. I started feeling so much better when I made a big effort in the environment. But you still have to make the effort on all fronts (internal, external, environment). I bought an ozone generator which I feel helped initially make a huge difference. It will destroy the fungus and mold in your environment and it will kill bugs too. Its not a total cure for the environment, but it helped knock down the infestation quite a bit. Now I can clean without feeling sick. It's also important to get a laundry protocol down and working, so you are not continually re-infesting yourself with clothing. Either way, you will want to treat the carpets and furniture with something to kill fungus/mold (hire a company? Use Xtreme Clean in a non-heated carpet cleaner?).

This forum is a great resource!

[tcmgpt13]

I don't know if anyone has heard of this product used for candida, but it sounds interesting as it breaks down the cell wall of candida.

Quote from lab which makes it:

"Because the cell wall of candida (and all other fungal organisms) is made mostly of fiber, fiber digesting enzymes can break it down."

That means it cannot survive (wish they would get something like that for the morgies). I heard about this product from a health food store ad which mentioned that this is a product which does not cause the typical candida die off. Evidently testing was done on this product. I personally cannot use plant based enzymes (reactions to mold upon which plant based enzymes are grown--not a problem for most people), but thought I would post the main page from the company which makes it. There are many online sites which sell it. A bit more information is offered about the product here:

Pure Essence Labs - Candex™ | Candida Digestive Enzymes Cellular Health

[gigi22]

thanks for this. I've heard this product works for a lot of people. I might try it soon... I have been working with an ND and I wanted to be more aggressive with the antifungals especially.. she picked out a formula she wants me to try.. this one did not have these enzymes in it though.. I might try that next time though.

[pat]

I ordered Three lac from the states last week and started taking it this week.I have been taking anti fungals for the past few weeks and have dropped 14 lbs in weight over the last month,losing all the bloating around my midriff and swollen stomach.
Anyway I didn't expect the three lac to do much but I have been having some die off symptoms..slight nausea and stomach feeling slightly upset.
Apparently this is good as it shows it is working.The guy I bought it from was very good and got back quickly to my query and explained this was normal.
I was very surprised to read what the symptoms were on acandida site..I will post it - scroll down to bottom and click on the survey.Don't fill it in but scroll down second page and read symptoms.Spot on for me as I got Candida in the early 70's and I don't believe a pill and a pessary will eradicate it from the system.I had attacks of it for years.
I shall keep on with this Three Lac..or maybe even try Five Lac (best deal is on Amazon)
Who knows it could be well estabished in the body and encouraging all these other odd fungi to drop in and join it.
Welcome to Candida Free - Threelac, Fivelac, Oxygen Elements

[gigi22]

Pat -

I have heard a lot of good things about 3lac from others, when a lot of other stuff didnt work. I have not tried the enzymes yet, but diet has been a huge deal for me in the last few months. I had candida so bad - it was in my ears, sinuses, bowels, bladder, throat.. it was everywhere (still is, but just not as bad). I couldn't eat anything that fed yeast or I would get ill. I had tingling and numbness in my extremeties. Of course, until I figured all of this out, I was scared out of my mind...
So, just not eating sugar and white flour and sticking to low carbs for a number of months, I have lost 40 lbs! Also, colonics help tremendously for candida (or other types of bowel cleaning)... once we kill off the candida, you need to get it out of your system, or the dead yeast will just feed the live ones still present. I got out so much yeast with the colonics - it was amazing! Also, the other good thing is that if you are taking parasitics, this should also help kill the candida as well.

[MorgellonsFriend]

GiGi 22...

Tell me more about a few things please. I understand about the boil symptom. The one thing to remember is to always stay calm; this is not fun to go through. I don't want you to ever be scared and please keep my note here and contact me. Also, I have had to divide my Extraction Procedure so it is on two separate pages for all reading this. The numbered instructions are going to be next with the title: EXTRACTION ASSISTANCE/GUIDANCE AS A PERSON THAT CARES ONLY - SECTION ONE (1):...example... The first section is labled Section One (1).so pay attention as it is labled Section Two (2).

EXTRACTION ASSISTANCE/GUIDANCE AS A PERSON THAT CARES ONLY - SECTION ONE (1):

Among many things, I am a trained Medical Assistant; I am not however a Medical Doctor and I have no right giving any Medical Advice. Disclosure/Disclaimer/Waiver of Liability & Suits against: THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE ONLY I HAVE SURVIVED AFTER I DID IT AND FELT BETTER. IF YOU ARE SCARED TO DO THIS – GIVE THESE EXACT INSTRUCTIONS TO YOUR DOCTOR BUT HE/SHE NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE EXTRACTION PROCESS OR ELSE YOU WILL HAVE NOT ONLY A BIG INFECTION BUT MORE BLACK SPECKS GROWING INSIDE THE BITE.
Okay now that the legal disclaimer is over we can talk more about how to get these out of your skin. By the way, this took me more than three hours to put together and type. I did this because of all the suffering and black specks that are dangerously staying in our bodies.

Before I begin my instructions and this is for All Morgellon’s Patients, I want to say one very, very important thing “EXTRACT YOUR BITE”. It hurts me overtime I see a photo with the black specks falling out of arms, legs, chests, backs of Morgellon’s Patients and this is the only way to get relief to get it over with. I have seen specialists, Dermatologists, name it, then I gave up when they hurt me themselves. I couldn’t go through that one again. I have put together this set of instructions because of a member’s pain of a “Boil/Pimple” which is exactly how these things start, they formulate into larger wounds later, then get into scratching frenzy zone.

Adults don’t usually have pimples on their face, they just don’t. We went through puberty and that was enough for God to give us. Let’s just remember that when we see the bumps on our face. Extract them get the biggest one first starting with the one that has a white or off-white looking pus. Next area of body is the chest. Be careful because your heart is right there. Don’t squeeze this area too much if it’s on the left side while not puncturing with a swirl. Next area is the forearm, arm, wrist you will probably not see pus just a red colored round dot or bump extract it at the middle point, but you still might see a white pus bite there – follow extraction directions below but be careful because you have lots of capillary veins in your arm in different areas so just be careful, usually the squeezing portion I have gone okay through with this area. Next on the leg area above the knee this is a common area for me and I usually get my walking privilege taken from me if the bite is in a certain area – follow extraction procedure but if you have arthritis in the knee be careful not to put too much pressure – my body is full of 90-year old/aged bone type arthritis and it hurts when I press hard in this area. Fingers use small needle be very careful and follow the eye procedure. Buttox is usually pretty safe and common for these things to happen the reason is we shower, sit on toilet, and usually we don’t use the antibacterial wipes like I discuss below to wipe our bodies off with after a shower along with the spray I suggest. In the future, if you have Morgellon’s, after a shower get a few wipes as I mention – Wal-Mart even sells a package of thicker wipes count of 8 in the package – get those and cut them really small – follow sterilizing procedure for scissors before cutting. Then use the spray I suggest on the wipe/wash cloths you purchase and wipe your body down every area they mention on the package. Yes after a shower does this! Because Morgellon’s Aqua Critalia bacteria bites, it is in the water, then it goes on the body while you are showering with you wonderful soaps and washes I loved it, but the water still stays on your skin even after you towel dry yourself off. If you air dry it’s even worse! I have been pretty much 90% from the major bites off my body removing my showers and use alternative products-I look and smell very clean am clean all of that-but everyday I get a bath with this stuff – everyday. Zip-lock baggie all of your garbage wipes – and if you don’t zip all the way lay flat then zip pressing on flat surface, the black specks and bacteria come right back out in the atmosphere. I even use the wipes for my hair and use some of the products that NASA Space People use while they are in orbit – they are called “No-Rinse Body & Hair Cleansing Products”. Send me an email and I can tell you more if you like.

Sometimes this Aqua Critalia will bite us several times on one bite area sometimes the bites will be so tiny we can’t see it too well it will just look like a rash – extract them carefully because that means you have lots of poison there with all those bites.
Below is not only a Wal-Mart supplies shopping list, it is a full procedure list for you to follow to take that terrible stuff out of your body. If you don’t extract them, they will travel into other areas of your body – normally not going out in your urine or bowel movements, as most doctors would tell you, so extract them. Be careful. Stay clean. Wear clean clothing only for the extraction a clean bleached T-shirt, clean jogging pants, clean, clean, clean.

Areas of the body to be careful with are the Eyes first. I have had numerous ones sometimes inside my eye itself-that one is still there and will never come out-I still have a photo of it. Remember next to the eye to get the smallest needle possible – if you even want to attempt this extraction at all, and make yourself plan for a long extraction. Let me put it simple – do the best extraction you can do, follow my procedure but don’t squeeze too much at all unless it is with sterilized tweezers open them wide don’t close it just press against the skin lightly, be careful of pinching yourself. If no black specks, blood, pus, or poison comes out then cover it up as directed below. I have done more than 15 around the eye extractions.

The biggest thing is to stay clean, as I give direction for that in my “Step-by-Step Extraction Instructions” and go to Wal-Mart to get everything to save not only money but get the exact products I am talking about. In fact, here is a product list now: Magnifying Glass is one of the most important because you need to keep track at all times of the Black Specs – get the Credit Card Style comes in set of 2 for about $3.97 and get the one with the light Rectangle pulls-out-pushes closed about $8.00-if you can only afford the credit card style that’s my favorite just get in a great light while extracting, next Antiseptic Perineal Spray No-Rinse Cleanser – A Spray in 8fl.oz. found in the adult diaper section, next the green Premium Adult Fresh’N up Personal Washcloths Greenish Package with a Plastic Flap (don’t laugh they are the same as the Germ-x stuff) found in the adult diaper section, next Germ-x Wipes are also found in the adult diaper section, next Spray Bottle-Clear found in travel size area about $.97 plus taxes, next 70% Isopropyl Alcohol small bottle about $1.54, large about $2.24, next roll of Bandied type tape-not the tape that pulls your skin off about $3.00 brand name Bandied or 3M brand-don’t get any stretchy sticky medical tape, next get a brand new pair of tweezers about $2.29-7.00, next a sewing needle get a new pack of them and use about a 1 ¼” one for the extraction about $2.20 get the best ones I think they carry Singer brands get that regular package of needles for sewing, next I use White Cloud Toilet Paper it has less fibers and is gentle for this process-really cheap too get big roll about $2.97 for four and $5.97 for 9 rolls I think, in the same section you want to get some zip-lock baggies – Quart Size about $1.97 or so and get the smaller size too. All at Wal-Mart don’t go anywhere else for the stuff. Okay now keep in mind when I give you these instructions this has worked wonders for me. I even had biopsies done to bites that the Doctor-Dermatologist did and the black specks were still in there banging to get out. Keep your hands clean, as I indicate below. Do not use water for anything, period! If you want to drink some nice Fiji water or Evian French water great, but don’t wash your hands in any water just follow my directions below and you will be alright. Please contact me if you have any questions before you do this, but I have done this more than 225 times on myself and about 31 times on my Mother. She never had an infection. I never had an infection, period. But I follow a very clean regimen and here it all is from start to finish:

[MorgellonsFriend]

EXTRACTION ASSISTANCE/GUIDANCE AS A PERSON THAT CARES ONLY - SECTION TWO (2) (1):

Let me tell you a few remedies, ideas, and if you try them you must always keep hands clean by using an "Antibacterial Adult Wipes (they are larger than all others double size same medications) with Antibacterial Spray" each of them is about $2.20 at Wal-Mart they seem to have the best at a cheap price, as mentioned above. You find these in the, don't laugh the adult diaper section but the stuff works. Good Luck with your Extraction Process and send me a note if you want to tell me how it went. Remember to always contact your doctor if you have an infection to get Kefflex or something he/she suggests for your skin. If you still have redness after about 8-hours, then try some Neosporin if you must, but cover it back up until you don’t feel any scratching needs. Usually it will be better in 2-3 days, if not then you have to follow the extraction process or call your doctor for further surgery or antibiotics. Remembering I have done this more than 250 times to myself, and at least 31 times to my Mother, no residual problems at all, but I followed all clean rules and my extraction process and everything was okay. Good luck.

1. Set up your surgical area. The spray cleanser you purchased is gentle enough on your skin an tough on cleaning the surface – usually 2-3 sprays direct on the surface, then get a ½ of a wipe from your Wal-Mart Large Wipes (Greenish square package) spray the wipe 1-2 times to get it foaming, now clean the surface area (preferably Formica, plastic storage chest or table, tile but not wood unless you test it first in an area of the wood you can’t see) with the wipe and it will foam lots because you also sprayed the surface – you may need to get/tear off another wipe 3” to wipe the foam, if foam/surface is dirty looking still, repeat process until clean but usually no more than 2 times is okay you are about ready to place all your surgical supplies on top – let’s call it your “Mini-Surgical Field”. Don’t use paper towels because of the dust factor. You want the area to air-dry so allow at least 5 – minutes or so for drying time before you begin your surgical procedure. If you get the White Cloud Toilet Paper at Wal-Mart – tear off about three squares to dry it after the 5 minutes if still wet. Once dry set everything up, for the needle I usually lay out a few torn pieces of toilet paper squares – 1 square each I usually tear about 5-6 lay them on the side then one for the needle specifically. Keep the lid off the sprayer during this process you will need it. Wipe down the Wipes package before setting it on the surface usually a 2"”with 2 sprays foaming it up will do let it dry and help it dry with toilet paper. Fill your alcohol bottle 1” from the top tighten the sprayer good, then get a 2” wipe 1-2 sprays on the wipe and wipe off the alcohol bottle let it dry a little then wipe it with tissue. Get your either Band-Aid squares cut by cleaning off a scissors-wrap scissors does great – follow same wipe procedure 1 spray this time will do okay and be careful cleaning the blades if you have rubber gloves use them for this process if they are new gloves, don’t use gloves unless they are tight and new, usually you will end up puncturing them anyway so I usually don'’ use them but your choice. Cut 1/8” to ¼” depending on the size of the boil/affected area measure as best as you can but don’t make it too big. Get your Germ-x wipes ready and follow procedures with the spray but only use 1 spray and 2”-3” of a wipe – this is for your hands to keep them clean in between and close the top and remember to shake the container to get the antibacterial juices flowing. Note before surgery: Your blood may be a more orange color red don’t let that alarm you, that’s the poison mixed with the blood. Also the poison is always going to be clear in color and is very dangerous to have stay on your fingers or hands for an length of time – so follow the wipe procedure of 3” plus 1-2 sprays and use the Germ-X brand for this.

2. Remember to use the Germ-X wipes to keep your hands clean in-between the blood, black specks, pus, and especially the poison. If you have a small magnifying glass get one while at Wal-Mart the Credit Card one is the cheapest I bought all of them and ended using that one plus the small rectangle one with the light the most get that ready after you clean your hands. Sterilize your tweezers with the wipes and spray-I like the Germ-X wipes for this because they are smaller/slimmer than the other ones – wipe in-between tweezers on pull area and outside area. We are ready!

3. Spray two squirts on a torn into 3" section of the Wipe first. Wash your hands with this. If you see dirt still, repeat the same thing. Keep cleaning until all the dirt is off your hands completely-even get under your fingernails (one of the most important areas because that is where the needle is held and you touch your open skin.).

4. Next tear off another 3" from the same wipe-remember to keep the lid on the wipes closed open it-tear off-put un-used wipe back (it keeps them clean and keeps them from drying out). Spray two squirts again on the wipe get the foam action of the spray lotion going and clean the area where you will put the needle, (in cleaning area: don’t rub or scrub too hard) - the boil area or the pimple looking area. Don't use Alcohol - not yet.

5. Get the needle 1 ¼” or something not to fat in girth/around, but long enough for you to hold onto. Tear 1” or so off of the wipes again and use 1-2 sprays of the cleanser – remembering to foam it up in the wipe good. Dry it off. Get your alcohol spray bottle and that one square extra you pulled off the roll of toilet tissue – spray 1-2 sprays of alcohol on the tissue. Put the needle in the middle and roll it in the tissue w/alcohol. I hold it there usually about 20 seconds. Now just remember where the point is because if you don’t you’ll end up poking yourself and have to clean the needle patch yourself up it’s a mess trust me. You will want to grab the other end of the needle the “Eye of the Needle” it’s called.

6. Now put one hole in your “clean” skin in the center of the boil/pimple looking area even if it has pus in it - go in at least 1mm -or 1/8 of an inch approximate on the inch, but follow the "1mm".

It may start to drain on it's own.

Watch it with 10-eyes!

Quickly grab your credit card magnifying glass/plastic card using the little round circle portion in the corner it’s the 4X area. These will re-bite you, and/or re-puncture/penetrate your skin faster than you can see them move.

You must scoop them up with a tissue-usually I use one square of toilet tissue for small to medium drainage -two for larger drainage depending on the size of the boil/pimple/affected area. After you catch the drainage put it directly in the toilet.

7. Next the hole should still be open, so squeeze it very lightly getting a new tissue square ready if it drains.

If it doesn't drain then get the alcohol spray and on tissue. Spray alcohol directly on the tissue-about 1-2 sprays and place tissue w/alcohol right on the boil/affected area.

Leave it there for about 20 seconds. It may drip alcohol a little.

This will draw out more black specks. If you don't have any drainage, blood, or black specks, then you need to puncture your skin again, sorry sweetie.
8. The New Puncture: A little Different than before.

This time you should go in a little more and try to swirl the needle around inside the hole - sounds gross I know, but I have been there too many times. One thing to keep in mind while doing this is when your blood is drawn by a Laboratory Technician – sometimes they can’t find the right spot and need to move the needle around it’s the same thing it will hurt just prepare yourself and be gentle – don’t swirl like you’re making a new dance, okay slow careful movements is what you need to do.

Be ready for lots of drainage. Get your tissues ready. Never clean at this point or any point during surgery with the Perineal Spray or Wipes. Only if it gets really, really messy then do that and clean puncture/extraction hole with tissue to dry then alcohol – then get ready again for the black specks to come out after the alcohol.

Now lots of stuff should come out and you need to be ready for it. Follow the same procedure as before -

- wait for drainage before squeezing –

If no drainage squeeze a little but not too much because the poison can go to different areas of the body - then collect all the black specks, blood, and poison

This for me has gone on for more than 4 hours for one bite. You must have the time or don't attempt it until you do.

9. Don't put Neosporin on it just cut a Band-Aid’s stick area only or buy the sticky Band-Aid type tape-not the tape that will hurt you get the kind tape like a Band-Aid.

You want the sticky on the boil/affected area so that no more black specks can fall out.

Because that is the biggest problems Morgellon's Patients have is the "Re-bite" they don't know that actually happens, we must pay attention so the black specks can be collected and discarded, then flush the toilet after your tissues are in there.

You are finished, at least for now.

I have had to do this procedure sometimes for 4-7 days with one bite.

If we don’t pay attention to this, extract at the proper time, we will have problems like un-measurable problems.