Been about 6 years now...

[girlgotout]

without any obvious symptoms such as I had previously. Boy do I remember it well. I still have scars from the lesions on my arms and hands. Everything all of you has said re: lesions and fibers, "floaters," creepy-crawlies, you betcha I had 'em. Only times 10. You see, I was heavily into cocaine when I started manifesting these symptoms. *I KNOW, I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS IN MY HEAD ~ COCAINE PSYCHOSIS* Bear with me please! I have been clean for nearly five years now (yay!) DON'T DO DRUGS kids.

I searched “morgellons cocaine” in Google and read a Wall Street Journal article from 2007ish. The comment page was pretty long and what follows is an excerpt from a comment, regarding a Mr. David Sands and his development of biological weaponry for the eradication of cocaine:

“David Sands IS THE INVENTOR OF THE MONSTER WE ALL SUFFER FROM NOW, the inventor of the coca-killing fungus. David Sands favoured forcible use of Agent Green, even without the consent of the target country, much less inhabitants of areas to be sprayed. And he admitted that this would constitute an act of biological warfare
Admitted biological warfare intentions in an interview with BBC Panorama:

SANDS: This fungus is the closest thing I’ve ever seen to a silver bullet … I have seen it take out 99% of plants in a field. I think that’s incredible and I think people should know that this technology exists … This would be a green kind of warfare …
BBC: Okay, but we’re talking semantics here. You call it green warfare. Other people call it biological warfare. That is semantically correct, it is biological warfare.
SANDS: That can be right. It’s biological warfare or green warfare. I just want you to understand my opinion is it’s a good thing if it’s done to eradicate something that the entire world feels is noxious.
BBC: What happens if consent is not forthcoming … I put to you a hypothetical - you never get consent - what should happen then?
SANDS: You’re saying that two countries [Colombia and Afghanistan] that knowingly are unleashing a chemical, a drug, on our children, an addictive drug, that they are consenting to do that and they are not consenting to do biological control, I think they should suffer the consequences of that decision.
BBC: Which means that we should go in without consent.
SANDS: I think somebody should.
BBC: And it should be treated as an act of counter terrorism?
SANDS: Well it’s a pretty high stakes game. Just go to any rehab clinic and check it out yourself.
BBC: You’re saying yes?
SANDS: Yes. – "

For starters, the worms indeed do seem to have some sort of relationship with cocaine. I would surmise from my reading that other sufferers who never did drugs have been exposed to some sort of biotechnology along the same vein ~ my exposure happened to be to a different organic material, that's all. Every time I did a shot, I could see them exiting my body. They'd run down my arms and escape through the soles of my feet that turned the bedsheets dark but then quickly disappeared into the mattress. One day I woke up with a very painful eye, went to the eye doctor and he said it looked like I had pinhole burns on my cornea (I agree they really like the facial area - perhaps because it is loaded with nerve endings? More on that in a sec...)

I researched and found the morgellons.org site and at that time, they were looking for people that had done or were doing speed-type substances as they thought there might be a correlation.

Another observation - the worms are strong little buggers! Tried to do a shot - and "they" refused to allow the needle to enter my arm, it twisted into a 45 degree angle totally of it's own accord. I took to nuking my full rig in order to kill the buggers to allow a clean shot (effective, btw) I also tried to get a sample of some of the fibers into a small plastic zip bag and it was near impossible to close it. They were in my teeth and when I flossed, sometimes the floss would break and would literally get pulled into the base of my gums - just flat out disappeared into my gums. So many lesions, so much proof in my mind that despite my addiction, I KNEW my eyes and brain weren't deceiving me.

Here's where the "nerve ending" part comes in: I called a doctor in Mesa, AZ and he hypothesized that the Morgellons pathogen was attracted to and fed off of dead nerve endings (or perhaps a fungus that fed off the nerve endings) - and I was frying mine off on a daily basis with my IV cocaine use so that made sense to me. And now, even more so with the discovery of the above information re: bio-warfare on coca crops.

Anyway, I am glad I came back across this site because it reinforces in my mind that yep, I wasn't crazy. My BIG question is - even without lesions or obvious symptoms for several years, does it lie dormant in my body? I am sure I could find out if there are still any living in me by relapsing for one occasion to see what happens, but a) that's not healthy for me (duh) and b) there seems to be a good chance that this bug lives / is transported via cocaine among other plants via pesticides, etc.

But I am still tired all the time, my eyes are getting worse (visual acuity fluctuations - I have always had bad eyes but sometimes one eye will be markedly more blurry for an hour or two, plus tons of floaters), my gums, which have receded from the trauma of the infection and have not regrown, bleed a lot when brushing and sometimes a little here and there throughout the day (the dentist said it was lichen planus about three years back but the $50 ointment he prescribed never did a thing)...

I have some unrelated chronic health problems (surprise surprise) so I could really use some reassurance that since I have not had lesions or fibers for 6 years, this is one less thing I have to worry about anymore. Not getting any younger either.

My heart goes out to those who suffer! It seems unfair that with the intentional decimation of my body I should be relieved of it, but I am thankful that I was delivered from both the scourges in my body, intentional or not. But I do hope to find out more about this, so if anyone knows more about it's latency, activity cycles, or curability please share.

Thanks for listening everyone. Best of luck and God bless all of you.

[pat]

Some interesting info there g-gotout and glad you have a lessening of symptoms.I wouldn't like to say whether or not they will reappear as no one knows.I find it hard to believe we would get rid of them completely especially a they seem to be deep in our systems.
I found this article which is interesting and at the end of it is a link to 'sunshine project ' which for some reason is suspended.Never the less some good reading on there from the archives.
S/R 26: Agent Green - The US Leads Efforts to Use Biological Weapons in the War on Drugs (Belvadi)
Also this link is good info on clandestine use of fungus back in 1984......morgellons symptoms go back years ..or maybe we all carry Lyme and the rest of the stuff becomes attracted to us cos of that.
The Drug War
Don't know if these links are going to show up ...if they don't google 'david sands green war' where they and other stuff can be found.
Hope you continue to improve GGO

[carla]

It isn't just the War on Drugs either.There was a war on weeds going on too.
Fungal isolates and biological control compositions for the control of weeds invention

[unknownpest]

thanks for that info,
your the first Ive read talk about an association with drugs which i had my suspicions since my first onset. although now i am lead to believe that something B.O. said about being in our blood I agree. Heres why; whenever I get stoked about something I feel activity and exodus that would be because the blood is moving faster? I don't know but were moving closer to some answers.

[Baraka Obam]

I wish some more of you would look at the blood under the microscope, this black forming muck in the blood is not only in me but a few others. I wonder if it is the reason for lesions. I do not know but I do know it is a pathogen of some sort.

[Sadsack]

And don't forget Agent Orange:

Agent Orange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SS

[Sadsack]

My belief is that Morgellons is a total system penetration, not just blood, skin, etc. I have felt it in my brain (where there is no free-flowing blood), in the roots of my teeth, I have fibers coming out of my swollen joints.
It's everywhere.

Girlgotout -
Are you saying that all your Morgellons symptoms ceased when you stopped using cocaine??

SS

[weredIgo]

Hi guys,
This drug story that girl told got me to thinking again. LOL, I'm always doing that. Some months back I went to yet another derm dr. Once again he stayed across the room, didn't touch me and in the end gave me another form of cortisone. As far as I see it these derm drs live the high life and all they do is hand out cortisone cream. I have learned not to mention the M word. Now while I'm in there he asks if I'M a drinker and the such. I say no. I say the worst thing I do is smoke. All that stuff just never agreed with me. Anyway he then puts his two fingers up to his mouth looking like he's going to smoke a joint, and says "never even some of this". I said no it was never my thing. I don't know if he could see it on my face, but I was really taken aback. Later in the visit he leans into me and says so you think you are infested. WOW, guick thinking needed here. I proceed to say I don't know what I have (and that is true) and this seems to please him and he says "good". I swear it was like I had given him the right answer. I know he saw on my chart I take pain medication for my back disability. So it has been implied for years about morgellons and drugs. I have wondered for some time if this war on drugs they have going, if they let loose something on the illegal crops did they also do it on the crops that ill peoples medications are made from. Seems to me they would not, but who knows. Just some thoughts. Now I know there are M people out there that don't take any of these drugs. How could there be a connection? For example, I've known people that have done pot. If they had some from a crop that had been treated with these GM bugs and brought it in your home or car, do you think it could have been spread that way? These are all far out thoughs, but why have they always linked drugs and M people together?


Claudia

[dizzy dame]

I could shoot so many of the theories of what causes Morgs to bits. I have never smoked, never done durgs, never drank any kind of alcohol. My worst vice seems to be food. I never have fooled around with a lot of sexual partners, etc. I have been married to the same man for 58 years in June. I live clean and I do mean clean. I have no idea where the morgs came from unless I have Lymes and somehow that is the thing that brought this on. I just hope someone comes up with a cure for this. DD

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by dizzy dame

I could shoot so many of the theories of what causes Morgs to bits. I have never smoked, never done durgs, never drank any kind of alcohol. My worst vice seems to be food. I never have fooled around with a lot of sexual partners, etc. I have been married to the same man for 58 years in June. I live clean and I do mean clean. I have no idea where the morgs came from unless I have Lymes and somehow that is the thing that brought this on. I just hope someone comes up with a cure for this. DD

You'e too damn pure, Dizz!

Seriously, I never did drugs either. My only vice is red wine and an occasional other drink. I've been a health nut since age 20 and I'm 61. Never smoked anything, shot anything, snorted anything (except salt water ;-)........

Kritts