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Old October 5th, 2009, 06:03 PM
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Hi all,,after a week of research,,and re-examining the possible origins of my illness,,and possible sources of infection(I just had to know) I stumbled on this:
I had noticed insects dying in my warehouse at a staggering rate(mostly wasps),,they were all over the floor with what I thought was mold growing out of them,,BUT after microscopic examination,,I found that it was morgs...
At first I had thought they were somehow coming into contact with the various bugs coming out of my body(miasis?)
BUT I noticed a wasp come in contact with a cobweb,,,,escape,,fly to the window,,and in about 5 minutes it was disabled,,and passing away..

So I gather some of the cobweb,,and notice a spider that looks almost exactly like this,,but the rear is "boxed" shape..



I took a couple of videos and here is what I found



It is on youtube under magnetic spiderweb

I have also located an eggsack from this type of spider and emptied the contents ,,and these aint no ordinary eggs,,creepy just got creepier!!
I will upload some more vids today,,

I am still trying to figure out how a spider is able to produce morg fibres,,..
Was it altered after exposure,,or is it the original soarce??

The web it produces is loaded with all the little nasties,,like colored moving magnetic fibres,,,yellow cyst structures,,black orbs....most of the stuff we have coming out of us

To show I am not b.s.-ing anyone I will make available to ANYONE samples for study,,,HECK I need some other confirmation anyway,,and have contacted a couple of entomoligist,,for possible ID on this spider.

IT IS IN THE WEB!!!!!

More later,,I am extremely exhausted....
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Old October 5th, 2009, 06:29 PM
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I forgot to add,,I have two other vids at the u-tub site ,,username bulltexan,,listed as magnetic spiderweb,,,,classification=education
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Old October 5th, 2009, 07:37 PM
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Hi Hurtin,
Did you know there are parasites that look like spiders? i didn't either til i had to suffer with this disease. there are many different forms parasites have. read through this article it mentions fish parasites,spiders and fuzzballs.i have never tried this product hopefully some day i can! i don't think it would be a bad idea to try this either!
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Old October 5th, 2009, 07:54 PM
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This seems like a really important post by Hurtin 1. I hope that there can be substantial followup and reporting of it. --Fried
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Old October 5th, 2009, 08:20 PM
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Hi Hurtin,

Good work, they are morg webs for sure. Here's mine, with comparison of normal garden web strands:

Morgellons-Disease-Research - Jo's Album: Webs on my wall

We can work on this wasp tie in together. I too have seen more than 100 wasps quickly die after being in contact to ceiling area this summer and have seen one caught in webbing hanging down.

Have your webs been 'cob' shaped in uniform pattern? Can you check...and was the spider mobile when/if you disturbed web?

Here's the angle I've been working on -

Fungus gnat larvae make webs - irregular webs and multiple horizontal and vertical strands to catch prey. Their strands have a very acidic pH 2/3 and have amber muscus droplets on - which paralyze prey.

Prey are attracted to chemicals released by the gnat larvae. Prey can include wasps and spiders. Scientists disecting FG larvae have removed a host of insect parts from within them.

The pest guys said they could find no wasp nest...this kinda helps back up the attractant part.

I'm gonna get a flash light and study closely. If alot of activity goes on at night, we might need a video set up to catch spider or larvae in the act of producing these webs.

We need to nail this, to know either way.

Don't burn out Hurtin - this puzzle is a marathon not a sprint.

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Old October 5th, 2009, 09:14 PM
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Thanks Jo,,but unfotunatly in my case I dont have to look far,,this place is loaded with them,,and tons of this toxic web...
I have looked at ten different samples today,,all from the hanging cobs,,spiders webbing ,,and eggsacks,,ALL containing this nightmarish mix..
I even found some at our local supermarket,,on the floor,,a dust bunny if you will..Its every where here...

Yesterday right before the rain started here,a 3 foot long strand floated on to our neibors pasture,,was quite visible..Well I went and got it and was a loong strand of nano moving fiber,,,actually it was one thick one,with a thinner one wrapped on it...
I think these "spiders" climb high in the tree tops,,,,spit out some web and float long distances,,on the wind..even reaching the trade winds...
I remember seeing a film about spiders doing this but cant remember which kind.

These however,,are not your run of the mill spiders...the older ones do tend to pair up..with a mate ,,and the babies you can hardly see...

Before I start exterminating I plan to get lots of samples...
As much of this stuff is around me I know I am saturated,,,but other than the occasional moth or gnat coming out of me,,I feel fine..
I do get a pain every now and then in my right side,,but I used to be a heavy drinker(2 years sober-YAEEEHH!!!) No more itching or other now that I eat lots of lemons and eat sea salt..

I will try to make some more vids tonight,,,YOU gotta see the eggsack,,WOW

Oh I forgot to mention,,I burned some cobweb,,,crushed the ashes,,let sit for a couple of hours,,,,put under scope,,,and boom ,,,MORGS growth,,,this stuff is TOUGH!!
Much more later..
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Old October 5th, 2009, 09:51 PM
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Ewww I have ones that look just like the ones on the beams Hurtin! I just sprayed em with the 2oz Bug arrest mixture. When I wiped them of the wall they actually left a slight brown black stain on the wall. Gawd I hate this stuff!
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Old October 6th, 2009, 12:53 AM
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With humans wasting the world at a rate it can't substain. What has been here forever, bugs, virus, bacteria, plants, fish......... MAN is the new fellow on this planet, we did not suffer from this disease in such VAST numbers before. Would you really believe it is this tiny spider infecting US or US infecting the tiny spider. People really, human WASTE of one day from 7 billion HUMANS would cover a small city, included would be this ever advancing malady. Fibers that dont burn, hmmmm, does that sound natural, maybe, just maybe, it was man that introduced such a large amount of it. I bet the spiders are a little upset that they have to move this stuff around, can't even keep a clean web anymore. Dam Humans. This tough material lies under your skin, it is bad stuff, there is more with it, red egg looking stuff. The only way to out this stuff if actually cut out the large underskin TUMORS, most of you call them lesions. The lesion is a small part that is showing, the big vein fed part is under skin. I will sit and eat a bowl of spider webs and have no fear AS I AM THE MOST INFESTED IN THE VALLEY. Maybe just maybe I will go swimming tomorrow in the ocean, that is also brimming with trillions of bits of life alot of it coming from out of mans bottom.

EVERY thing that lives should fear man, for it is he that will destroy all life.

But than again I did hear of a woman that sat down and then along came this spider and the little tiny spider scared her away. That spider was attacked and blinded by the fibers that Miss Muffet had left on the bench the day before. You want to know somthing, I will bet I can take the waste from anyone and find these fibers in them, who wants to lose some money, anyone, lets make it kinda large amount, I need more money. Anyone, I gotta wonder if the amount of fibers in a dot of poo poo is 10 then how much of this do we produce hmmmmmmm, but then again for most people they want to look outside the human race and certainly it would not be them shedding these fibers and the spiders that sat down besider her getting dirty. Oh well did I upset the spider people, woops can't help it, I am bad. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

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Old October 6th, 2009, 12:59 AM
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We've talked about the "spider webs" in the past, but it is worth discussing again for the new members. Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention again, hurtin1. These webs used to grow up to 3 feet in length (a twisted strand) and hone in on me. I would feel biting sensations.

Bug arrest and eco-vie are very important when you find these webs. Spray your environment, yourself (pets too) and let the spray evaporate before you wash or vacuum out the webs.

creepy crawly for sure!

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Old October 6th, 2009, 02:01 AM
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Default the spiders and their PROBLEMS.

If you are REALLY REALLY interested about the spiders and their PROBLEMS, you will start by googling, why have spiders webs changed, spider webs look strange, spiders make strange webs. i think you will find its kinda like all the frogs dying and having birth defects. I am not saying that I am right but it seems kinda probable.
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