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Old September 3rd, 2008, 07:54 AM
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Post Fly larvae casing

This photo is taken from a journal article, where a doctor got a fly larvae infection on her back.



Really reminds me of some of my samples. Is this why they dont move, they are just casings? and is this why they just start to fall apart in water?

I dont think I've got Dermatobia hominis.....got to be something smaller.
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 09:17 AM
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Default gnat casings, perhaps?

Hey Jo,

Gnats are in the fly family, right? I'm not sure. Could be fungal gnat casings....???

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Old September 4th, 2008, 10:51 AM
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Post Fly baiting

Thanks Kritts - I know I've got gall gnats at least and seen the olde fungus gnatus aroundus.

I've just had an email from as Auzzie sufferer, saying that morgs like gelatine and chicken...more than lamb!

Interesting stuff. Chicken is high in amino acid isnt it, along with soya and stuff - http://www.powerofmeat.com/amino.htm

We know morgs likes our amino acids (if we believe Dr Hilde's testing and results that showed sufferers were deficient in half of the essential ones). That would tie in with the observation made from the land of AUZ.

Gelatine is a protein made of collagen apparently, and we know too well that morgs is pinching ours: Gelatin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This big production talks about how to bait some kinds of flies:
Bait compositions for anthropophilic flies - Patent 4205066

Amino acids and protein are very much on the menu.

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Old September 4th, 2008, 11:40 AM
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oooo...forgot to mention. This Auzzie sufferer says that morgs loves wet cat food...the set gelatine type. Again this makes sense - my cat wont touch the stuff, only the scienceplan dried stuff. Her's didnt either.

Cats are so clever bless them

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Old September 8th, 2008, 05:44 PM
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I've read a number of nematode and fly larvae articles where their skins get too tough for the drugs to be effective in latter stages or instars (there's usually at least 4 instars/stages, which involves the nematode or fly larvae shedding their skins or cases).

This is an interesting article about Mosquitocidal compounds from Magnolia salicifolia which were 100% effective in killing 4th instar mozzie larvae:

"Bioassay-directed isolation and purification of Magnolia salicifolia yielded six mosquitocidal compounds. Geranial and neral, isolated from the bark, showed 100% mortality on 4th instar Aedes aegypti at 100 ppm in 24 hours"

Mosquitocidal compounds from Magnolia salicifolia

This is the main reason I put myself on magnolia tablets this week and started using Marc Neumanns DSP special which has Geranial in it.

On the subject of ivermectin, I've read a number of articles where it was effective on nematodes and fly larvae...mainly talking about treating cattle not humans though!

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:http://www.jstor.org/pss/2403564

The effect of faecally excreted ivermectin and fenbendazole on the insect colonisation of cattle dung following the oral administration of sustained-release boluses.


This next article is very interesting. Fly larvae are big producers of chitin according to this disturbing report:

"The fly (Musca domestica) larva shells, which form in rather big amounts as a waste product in the process of biological treatment of food industry wastes!! (shocker) (being sick smiley), can be used as a raw material for chitin production. These shells contain about 40% of chitin; for comparison, the prawn (Nephrops norvegicus) shells contain approx 16% chitin. Chitosan from fly larva shells may be produced in the same way as from the crustacean exoskeleton.

The key steps in the extraction of chitin from shells are the removal of proteins and minerals, such as calcium carbonate and phospate, by treatment with alkaline and acidic solutions in turn."

http://images.katalogas.lt/maleidykla/che33/C-121.pdf

Just had a thought....Nancy - isnt this what you have been doing to chemically interfere with calcium carbonate making in your lesions?

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Old September 14th, 2008, 09:13 AM
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Post Highly reproductive, cannibal larvae

Only me,

I've been reading some more about Gall midges (small orange bodied fly), because this is the one identified infection I'm pretty sure I do have.

Some snaps here: Morgellons-Disease-Research - Jo's Album: Arthropods

I've been wondering why cant I get rid of it?...I mean flies need to mate for the females to lay eggs....so surely they couldnt complete this feat underneath my skin..could they? I mean, a female and male fly would have to find each other under the skin and then have sex. Very unlikely. So, meaning that the infection SHOULD gradually fade in time.

Apparently not with gall midges!! They are in the family Cecidomyiidae

"known for the strange phenomenon of paedogenesis in which the larval stage reproduces without maturing first. Even stranger in some species the daughter larvae produced within a mother larva consume the mother and in others the reproduction occurs in the egg or pupa."
Cecidomyiidae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the only family of flies where the larvae reproduce in various stages, without necessarily maturing.

Is this why I've seen larvae inside larvae shapes?

Is this why I've never found an adult female midge? (they've been eaten)

Is this why I've found 'half built' insects....actually not half built, rather half eaten by larvae?

These larvae will eat each other if hungry, as well as their mum. Talk about no respect!!

Is it any wonder I cant shake this infection? I think not.

Report over

Thanks for listening

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I guess Mother's Day for them is out of the question. Thanks for the great find!
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Check out these images of the gall midges larvae! Look familiar??


citrus gall midge - Prodiplosis longifila Gagné

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/30227-post15.html

Doing a little more research on your find, I see neem is harmful to the larvae. Could be some help. I've been using a neem salve lately that stops the biting, but hasn't rid anything from my system. That's just me though.

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Thanks Meg!

The eggs of those citrus midges are quite long and clustered hey.

Just read that the gall midges that prey on animals are called zoophages.

But even the mum eaters love to eat mycellium (fungus filaments). Their head protrusions (pg274) look quite like my worm:

The Larvae of the Gall Midges ... - Google Book Search

Morgellons-Disease-Research - Jo's Album: Larvae, worms, casings and shedded skins - Picture

I'm using 100% neem oil on my skin, taking neem leaf capsules, magnolia tablets, chilli peppers, ivermectin and more!! (not sure what else to throw at it!)

The more larvae photos from web we can find the better....I havent been too successful yet.

cheers

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ps - glad to see you're back on the case Digibluster...whoever you are!
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