Insect time

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by Katinka

WTG! Kritts, you got it!! Exacty..that's what I also think...And if you look at the fungus I found yesterday..Hyphomycetes...Non-Sporulating Fungi which looks like fibers...used as bio-insecticides..

Kat

Hey Kat,
can you post me a link to that fungi?

thanks,
Kritts

[Katinka]

Originally Posted by Kritters

Hey Kat,
can you post me a link to that fungi?

thanks,
Kritts

Here ya go Kritts,

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Kat

[mmarsha]

Originally Posted by Jo

Only me,

I've been reading some more about Gall midges (small orange bodied fly), because this is the one identified infection I'm pretty sure I do have.

Some snaps here: Morgellons-Disease-Research - Jo's Album: Arthropods

I've been wondering why cant I get rid of it?...I mean flies need to mate for the females to lay eggs....so surely they couldnt complete this feat underneath my skin..could they? I mean, a female and male fly would have to find each other under the skin and then have sex. Very unlikely. So, meaning that the infection SHOULD gradually fade in time.

Apparently not with gall midges!! They are in the family Cecidomyiidae

"known for the strange phenomenon of paedogenesis in which the larval stage reproduces without maturing first. Even stranger in some species the daughter larvae produced within a mother larva consume the mother and in others the reproduction occurs in the egg or pupa."
Cecidomyiidae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the only family of flies where the larvae reproduce in various stages, without necessarily maturing.

Is this why I've seen larvae inside larvae shapes?

Is this why I've never found an adult female midge? (they've been eaten)

Is this why I've found 'half built' insects....actually not half built, rather half eaten by larvae?

These larvae will eat each other if hungry, as well as their mum. Talk about no respect!!

Is it any wonder I cant shake this infection? I think not.

Report over

Thanks for listening

Jo xxx

Hi Jo,
Those are some great pic's and I am absolutely positive I have these too. I have seen them. I have some more sample's I am sending to entomologist on Monday. I don't understand how I have parasitic wasp, leaf hopper, moth and gall midge's??? This is like nightmare on elm street but it's not Elm it's my street. I have been mixing Ivermectin paste in with shampoo trying to kill. After leaving this concoction on for about 5 min. I had 3 of these midges on the back of my neck? I am sure they came from scalp. Has anyone ever tried Ovicidal ? Her is a short paper about resistant head lice, I know I do not have lice but from what I understand from my brother who is in pest control business, same treatments should kill fly's? This is why i am sending the other samples to entomologist. I have to know for sure exactly what i am dealing with. He of course will not offer any treatment solutions as he think we "human's" can not be infested with these type of insects. I would like to take my fist and ram it down his stupid neck, Yeah man... that would be cool. But on the real, just tell me what's in the bottles jerk!!! because I think I have larvae and hatching larvae and worms?? in those bottles ALONG WITH YOUR GALL MIDGE'S, and a few more parasitic wasp, It's quite a mix, and in meantime while I am waiting on his results I will start your protocol above but will have to wait till Mon. to get some Neem Oil. I have tried every thing on list below but had never heard of ovicidal?? I am just wondering has anyone used it?? Thanks for your work Jo!!!
mmarsha
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Benzyl Alcohol Lotion for Head Lice
The FDA has approved benzyl alcohol lotion, 5%
(Ulesfia Lotion – Sciele) for treatment of head lice in
patients >6 months old. The active ingredient is 5%
benzyl alcohol; the vehicle is 5% mineral oil.
MECHANISM OF ACTION — Lice exposed to benzyl
alcohol lose the ability to close their respiratory spiracles;
the lotion vehicle then obstructs their airways and
causes them to asphyxiate. Benzyl alcohol has no ovicidal
activity.
CLINICAL STUDIES — In 2 unpublished, randomized,
double-blind, vehicle-controlled clinical trials
(described in the package insert), a total of 250
patients >6 months old with head lice received two 10-
minute applications of the active treatment applied one
week apart. Benzyl alcohol eliminated all live lice in
76.2% and 75% of patients examined 14 days after the
final treatment, compared to 4.8% and 26.2% with the
vehicle alone. Resistance to the drug has not been
reported and, because of its mechanism of action, is
not expected to occur.
ADVERSE EFFECTS — Benzyl alcohol lotion has generally
been well tolerated. Eye irritation and contact dermatitis
have been reported. Preterm neonates injected
intravenously with products containing benzyl alcohol
have developed a “gasping syndrome” with CNS
depression, metabolic acidosis and respiratory distress,
sometimes progressing to neurological deterioration
and cardiovascular collapse. The maximum age
and minimum dosage at which this syndrome could
occur are unknown.
DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION — The lotion is
applied to dry hair and left on for 10 minutes. It has little
or no odor and leaves the hair cosmetically
acceptable. For short hair (0-4 inches long), the manufacturer
recommends using up to one 8-ounce bottle.
For hair >16 inches long, the labeling
recommends using up to 6 bottles. The treatment
must be repeated after 7 days because the drug is
not ovicidal.
OTHER DRUGS FOR HEAD LICE — Pyrethrins –
Natural extracts from the flowers of chrysanthemums
combined with piperonyl butoxide, pyrethrins are inac-
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Table 1. Medications for Head Lice
Drug Ovicidal Resistance Dosage Cost1
Benzyl alcohol lotion– No No Apply to dry hair for 10 min,
Ulesfia 5% (Sciele) then rinse; repeat 7 days later $ 30.51
Pyrethrins w/piperonyl butoxide shampoo2 – No Yes Apply to dry hair for 10 min, then
Rid (Bayer) shampoo; repeat 7-10 days later 5.66
A-200 (Hogil) 5.25
Pronto Plus (Church & Dwight) 6.16
Permethrin 1% creme rinse2 – No Yes Apply to shampooed, towel-dried hair for
generic 10 min, then rinse; repeat 7 days later 8.19
Nix (Insight) 9.08
Malathion 0.5% lotion – Yes Not in US Apply to dry hair for 8-12 hrs,3 then shampoo;
generic (Karalex) repeat 7-9 days later if necessary 149.864
Ovide (Taro) 160.484
Lindane 1% shampoo – No Yes Apply to dry hair for 4 min,
generic then rinse; do not repeat 136.86
Ivermectin tablets5 – No No 200-400 mcg/kg PO once;
Stromectol (Merck) repeat 7-10 days later 10.406
1. Cost of two fluid ounces (8 ounces for Ulesfia) according to Redbook 2009 or Redbook Update July 2009. Amount needed may vary based on formulation and
length of hair.
2. Available without a prescription.
3. One or two 20-minute applications have also been effective (TL Meinking et al, Pediatr Dermatol 2004; 21:670).
4. According to June 2009 data from retail pharmacies nationwide available from Wolters Kluwer Health.
5. Not FDA-approved for treatment of head lice.
6. Cost of one dose for a 30-kg child at the lowest dosage.
Revised 8/5/09: In Table 1, the price for lindane 1% shampoo should have been $136.86 (not $3.00).
58 The Medical Letter • Volume 51 • Issue 1317 • July 27, 2009
tivated by heat and light. A 10-minute treatment is usually
effective against lice, but not unhatched eggs.
Treatment failures have become increasingly common
with pyrethrins, and allergic reactions can occur.
Permethrin – A synthetic compound based on the
insecticidal components of natural pyrethrins, permethrin
is heat- and light-stable and has residual activity
for 2 weeks or more. It is more effective and less allergenic
than natural pyrethrins. Resistance to permethrin
is also increasing.1
Malathion – An irreversible cholinesterase inhibitor,
malathion is effective and appears to be safe for treatment
of head lice, and it is ovicidal. Resistance has not
been reported in the US or Canada, but in other countries,
lice have become resistant to malathion formulations.
Many patients find malathion objectionable due to
its odor, prolonged (8 to 12 hour) application time and its
flammability; they should be warned not to use a hair
dryer or curling iron after applying it. A clinical trial testing
a reduced application time found one or two 20-
minute applications 98% effective.2 Malathion is
approved for use in children >6 years old.
Lindane – Organochlorine insecticides such as DDT
and lindane are slow-killing pesticides that are stored
in adipose and nerve tissue of humans and other
mammals. Concerns about contamination of drinking
water, rivers, lakes, fish and wildlife from the rinse-off
of head lice treatment have resulted in a ban on the
product in California. In addition, the FDA has issued
a public health advisory on the safety of lindane products,
especially the occurrence of neurotoxicity
including seizures.3 Given the availability of safer
alternatives, parents and practitioners should be cautioned
against using it.
Ivermectin – An FDA-approved treatment for onchocerciasis
(river blindness) and strongyloidiasis, oral ivermectin
has been used for treatment of head lice when
all other therapies have failed. Although anecdotal
reports indicate that it is effective, no controlled studies
have been published. Resistance has not been
reported. Ivermectin is not ovicidal, and it is contraindicated
in children weighing less than 15 kg.
CONCLUSION — Benzyl alcohol lotion, 5% (Ulesfia)
appears to be safe, even in young children, and moderately
effective for treatment of head lice. Resistance
is unlikely to develop. 
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[mmarsha]

Originally Posted by chester

Jo...great job investigating the fly and presenting all you are finding.Thanks so much With the webs and web strands and designs we find....it is like splitting a hair to see who the artist is. This fly makes a shell? Have you found a photo of the shell? Or...is the casing called the "shell"? YES! I attack the lesion with Acid to open, then Alkaline soda to fizz it. The Acid softens the covering....the Akaline fizzes the interior structure. Mr. Bean finally gives in and lets go...but, if i can ....i pull the bean out with tweezers for a prize(rather than fizz it)... and look inside it for anatomy. I have stared at the anatomy in all its contractions and releases of growth....and must still wait patiently for my mind to do some expanding until i can understand. I have not found any that can fly away....yet. Keep up the great work, we will get this critter cornered, backed up to a brick wall and then.......SQUISH! Yeah!

YEAH MAN, SQUISH!!!!!
mm

[Jo]

Hi Marsha,

Maybe you could try this experiment:
Entice the worm beneath

Our latest research on myiasis is here:
Close associations: Micro-Myiasis & Morgellons Disease

Its long, but should help to explain afew things. As Kammy mentioned, parasitic wasps infect fungus gnat larvae. Not only this but gall midge and phorids are attracted to fungus gnat larvae. So keep your eyes peeled for a small black midge around and get a bright torch and check your walls, ceilings, lamps for thin web strands.

I dont think that the Benzyl alcohol lotion, 5% will be effective - as we need to kill larvae under the skin, primarily, rather than adult bugs above it. If something is not ovicidal, then it means it will not kill eggs. Vinegar is our best bet for killing fly eggs - massage clear vinegar in your hair after shampooing and use to wipe down/spray in your home (dilluted).

If the experiment works for you - you may have some larva to send to the entomologist too!

Please keep me posted on how you get on!

Jo xxx

[spotted dog]

Hi Jo..Did you see "How clean is your House" on telly this week? a woman who looked very clean & fresh herself had the dirtiest house I've ever seen, even her fridge was full of slime & mold, her ceiling was absolutly full of fruit flies, maggots everywhere, they filled a spray bottle with GSE, & sprayed everywhere & then they just died & were rubbed off, what I can't get over was the clearness of her skin, they showed her a computerised image of her daughter(beautiful) & then put images of impetigo onto her daughters lovely face, because bacteria in her house could cause impetigo.

I'm still wondering why these people who live in such thilthy conditions look so clear skinned & healthy!!!

Perhaps we should all live in Chit!!...Spots

PS: I leave fruit out in a dish but have never had a fruit fly,mind you the fruit does'nt last long in my house, its eaten....

[Jo]

Shucks, missed that programme Spotters, sounded good.

Ya know, I dont think I've used GSE around the house?? Cant remember...thanks Spotters. GSE is the best - we can dillute and drink it, spray it, rub it on..its brilliant and goes a long way dont ya think?

Interestingly, myiasis can be mistaken for impetigo...

Love ya

Jo xxx

[Kritters]

Hey Jo,

pssst over here! gotta tell ya something.

last night while the sun was still out, it was hot and I'm on the porch on my puter. I look down at my forearm and there was a 'smear' of what looked like could be water or clear liquid only about the size of 2"x1/2". I thought at first it was sweat, but there wasn't any on the rest of my arm. so I got up to go try to scrape it onto the slide, and by the time I got there, it was gone. It was sticky to the touch. Weird I tell ya!

Kritts

[Jo]

Dearest McKritters,

I think it may have been me

It was one hell of a sneeze buddy.

Sorry.

Jo

[Katinka]