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Old June 9th, 2010, 01:58 PM
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Well I found a source of sodium chlorite in Canada, but the quantities I have to buy are staggering. I will do it if I know it works, and I will LOTS left over. So if others have used it please let us know.

Dental gel:
Years ago, my dentist gave me a little tube of dental gel - after dental surgery. I liked it and bought a box of these tubes online. I used it on cuts etc and it was amazing stuff. I just searched sodium chlorite and the product came up. It contains Oxygene@ which contains sodium chlorite as one of the main ingredients. Who knew? I do not sell the stuff or promote it so no company name from me but you can search it. I'm going to get more. It was cheap (for my dentist to give it away it had to be).

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Old June 9th, 2010, 07:45 PM
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Crash,,,,I am talking about calcium hypochlorite,,,not sodium chlorite.....
The S-C is for mms1,,,,I am talking about mms2(C-H)
Unless you wanna make the 1,,I just went straight for the 2
The higher percentage the better...
Find a swimming pool supply company or hardware store,,NOT walmart..
Dont use hth,,go with cal-shock or other(for capsules)....hth is ok for external sanitizing though..(see below)
I only had to dose for 4-5 days,,,but do a maintanance now with 1 cap every two weeks to prevent any further infections from anything.
I mix it up in a sprayer(hudson) also,to spray sanitize my cars,boat,,house ,,yard,,water well,,,,,but I dont spray the trees....(I use neem oil for trees)
Things are alot more sparkly clean,,and fresh smelling round here now..lol
I gargle three times a day with a mixture to keep mouth/teeth healthy.
I was having probs with teeth (loose/pain)before I found out about this,,but now all is good. (good tight teeth)
I will try to find the spray sanitizer(some guy makes and sells),,and let you check it out,,,its pretty neat...,,,I am going to BUILD my own,,if I can find the medium size tablets,,it uses,,opposed to the powder...
For now I just mix it in a hudson.
I posted a little on this before,,if ya want to look up.
I put a few grains in the toilet and let sit,,for a while...It will sanitize first,,then eventually "gas out",,,but I DO NOT flush immediatly,,because I have a septic tank.
I have spent alot of time researching this,,and have even went to some of my fathers books,,on water treatment,,as he retired from the water dept.
Be prepared to buy some yogurt too,,,,for after treatment,,,,I found it was the best thing to replentish stomach enzymes...
I wished some one could do exactly as I did,and,take exactly what I took,,,because I did something right,,and it started with the mms2,and B-W.

I didnt even get to open my food grade peroxide,,,didnt have too..(thankful)
I could hardly walk to the mailbox 100yds. from house,,when this was going off in me,at onset,,and now I am working 10 hours a day..now..so I just have to go on what I know,,,yes it did work.....
I didnt go off on people who took pet meds(or other) on here,,because we are free will"ed ADULTS,,,and can shove fava beans up their nose if they feel that will help,,who am I to stop ya...I just chose a different route of self meddin...thats all
If someone asks for info ,,and I can provide it,,I will...
Yes ,,,I have put this stuff to really good use,,including cleaning my blood and lymphatic system,,as well as cleaning my environment...
Yes I believe in it,,if others dont,,thats thier perogitive,,,but dont preach to me,,I know what I know,,,and have learned what I have learned......
I found the solution to MY problem,,right HERE,,and I hope everyone else can too,,with INFORMATION.....
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Old June 9th, 2010, 07:47 PM
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Crash,,,,I am talking about calcium hypochlorite,,,not sodium chlorite.....
The S-C is for mms1,,,,I am talking about mms2(C-H)
Unless you wanna make the 1,,I just went straight for the 2
The higher percentage the better...
Find a swimming pool supply company or hardware store,,NOT walmart..
Dont use hth,,go with cal-shock or other(for capsules)....hth is ok for external sanitizing though..(see below)
I only had to dose for 4-5 days,,,but do a maintanance now with 1 cap every two weeks to prevent any further infections from anything.
I mix it up in a sprayer(hudson) also,to spray sanitize my cars,boat,,house ,,yard,,water well,,,,,but I dont spray the trees....(I use neem oil for trees)
Things are alot more sparkly clean,,and fresh smelling round here now..lol
I gargle three times a day with a mixture to keep mouth/teeth healthy.
I was having probs with teeth (loose/pain)before I found out about this,,but now all is good. (good tight teeth)
I will try to find the spray sanitizer(some guy makes and sells),,and let you check it out,,,its pretty neat...,,,I am going to BUILD my own,,if I can find the medium size tablets,,it uses,,opposed to the powder...
For now I just mix it in a hudson.
I posted a little on this before,,if ya want to look up.
I put a few grains in the toilet and let sit,,for a while...It will sanitize first,,then eventually "gas out",,,but I DO NOT flush immediatly,,because I have a septic tank.
I have spent alot of time researching this,,and have even went to some of my fathers books,,on water treatment,,as he retired from the water dept.
Be prepared to buy some yogurt too,,,,for after treatment,,,,I found it was the best thing to replentish stomach enzymes...
I wished some one could do exactly as I did,and,take exactly what I took,,,because I did something right,,and it started with the mms2,and B-W.

I didnt even get to open my food grade peroxide,,,didnt have too..(thankful)
I could hardly walk to the mailbox 100yds. from house,,when this was going off in me,at onset,,and now I am working 10 hours a day..now..so I just have to go on what I know,,,yes it did work.....
I didnt go off on people who took pet meds(or other) on here,,because we are free will"ed ADULTS,,,and can shove fava beans up their nose if they feel that will help,,who am I to stop ya...I just chose a different route of self meddin...thats all
If someone asks for info ,,and I can provide it,,I will...
Yes ,,,I have put this stuff to really good use,,including cleaning my blood and lymphatic system,,as well as cleaning my environment...
Yes I believe in it,,if others dont,,thats thier perogitive,,,but dont preach to me,,I know what I know,,,and have learned what I have learned......
I found the solution to MY problem,,right HERE,,and I hope everyone else can too,,with INFORMATION.....
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Old June 10th, 2010, 03:05 AM
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Hurtin1 wrote: B-S Jonsi,,,,I used MMS2 and have NO SYMPTOMS ANYMORE!!!!!

DONT BASH WHAT YOU HAVENT DONE YOURSELF!!!!!,,or RESEARCHED!!!!!

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Hurtin1, You don't know me very well, do you?

I don't want to argue with you... So are you saying you are healthy now? Why is your name Hurtin1? If you are symptom free how long has it been?

I resent you saying that I have not researched MMS. This is a very old topic on this board. I am very well aware of side affects and long term affects.

I HAVE talked to many "M" sufferers who have tried MMS and they regret ever trying it. Please don't tell me that I have to try MMS before I report what I have heard. And Hell NO, I won't put any poison in my body so yeah, I will bash what I want to.... cuz it is my truth. calcium hypochlorite, isn't that what we put in swimming pools to kill living organisms? Our body is a living organism....

Calcium Hypochlorite (warnings about this product)

I believe you are killing more healthy cells than the "M" by using this product. And we all know how the "M" likes to feed on toxins... it is a matter of time. Again, how long have you been symptom free?

Any others want to join Hurtin1 and say MMS has cured you?

Please be very careful with what you put in your bodies.

Peace,
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Old June 10th, 2010, 11:05 AM
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I am a BIG Believer in Mr. Common Sense's philosophy, which is healing the terrain:
It’s All About the Terrain Morgellons – A Mundane Approach

I have never taken MMS or silver internally. I switched to an anti-candida diet using organic, whole foods, and do not eat processed foods any more. I've been taking vitamins, supplements, amino acids, probiotics, etc. Earlier on, I did take some natural antifungals for candida but I have gone long periods off of them without detriment.

If you give your body the things that it needs, it has an AMAZING ability to heal itself.

For me, vitamin B12 was key. I was severely deficient, and when I started up on b12 shots, my healing was accelerated.

The other thing that was crucial for me was detoxing of heavy metals, as my body burden is high, and metals can do all kinds of damage, like suppress the immune system and prevent certain body metabolic processes from working properly.

Listen.. I spent months working on my skin with treatments and baths until the stinging and biting and bugs were gone. Did this mean I was healthy? NO. I could have easily been re-infected as my immune system was still in terrible shape. It made life bearable again but my mold infection and larvae were still happily living in my skin tissues. You cannot just kill infection and leave it at that. To be truly healthy again, you have to heal the body with nutrients, build the immune system, and detox.

I'm with Jonsi here....
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Old June 10th, 2010, 01:15 PM
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Jonsi, Actually Mel of "howicuredmorgellons.com is a big proponent of MMS (as well as the Logos nutritionals and colloidal silver). Mel is completely well. His temperature has even gone back up to normal. He's worked with the Great Plains Lab and his protocol is on his site. He's off all medication (antibiotics). Mel is older and he's back pumping iron now and says he is feeling just great. He has a whole faction of folks that are following his protocol.

He also had Pat, a gentleman that was very ill speak on one of his conference calls and Pat has some other really serious health problems besides Morgellons. He is so sensitive and so ill that he had to dilute one drop of MMS in a cup of water and then only drink a quarter of the liquid, in essence absorbing only 1/4 drop of MMS. I believe he is only up to 3 drops now. He says it's helped him immensely.

See Mel's protocol for a supplier. He also has a search function on his home page so anyone can research MMS. There is a good video out on it and I believe I accessed it through his site.

I have not spent much time researching MMS, and I haven't looked at Carla's link yet, nor have I tried MMS or am encouraging folks to try it—but I am interested in it.

Anyone out there trying to make MMS out of pool supplies is nuts in my humble opinion. Get it already manufactured and research it thoroughly. If you do take it, start slow and gradually build. It does make you ill initially, but they say that is part of the healing crisis.

Again, I'm not saying to take it, but at least go read up on it.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 02:52 PM
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Zara -

I follow Mel's board too, and I'm really happy that he is recovered, but I don't subscribe to a protocol that is a one size fits all scenerio. Mel used antibiotics, too, but I did find out what my underlying issues were, and mine were primarily fungal/mold/ and yeast-related. Antibiotics would have brought me more harm than good. If fact, antibiotics made me very sick and tipped me into the world of M. It wiped out all my good flora, and along with my sickened immune system, allowed mold, fungus, and yeast grow out of control.

I just don't think we should blindly follow therapies without reason.

I just hope that people do thorough research for themselves and make good and safe decisions... and I want to point out that other people have gotten well with a different philosophy (supporting the terrain), and MMS (or silver or antibiotics) was not a part of that.



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Jonsi, Actually Mel of "howicuredmorgellons.com is a big proponent of MMS (as well as the Logos nutritionals and colloidal silver). Mel is completely well. His temperature has even gone back up to normal. He's worked with the Great Plains Lab and his protocol is on his site. He's off all medication (antibiotics). Mel is older and he's back pumping iron now and says he is feeling just great. He has a whole faction of folks that are following his protocol.

He also had Pat, a gentleman that was very ill speak on one of his conference calls and Pat has some other really serious health problems besides Morgellons. He is so sensitive and so ill that he had to dilute one drop of MMS in a cup of water and then only drink a quarter of the liquid, in essence absorbing only 1/4 drop of MMS. I believe he is only up to 3 drops now. He says it's helped him immensely.

See Mel's protocol for a supplier. He also has a search function on his home page so anyone can research MMS. There is a good video out on it and I believe I accessed it through his site.

I have not spent much time researching MMS, and I haven't looked at Carla's link yet, nor have I tried MMS or am encouraging folks to try it—but I am interested in it.

Anyone out there trying to make MMS out of pool supplies is nuts in my humble opinion. Get it already manufactured and research it thoroughly. If you do take it, start slow and gradually build. It does make you ill initially, but they say that is part of the healing crisis.

Again, I'm not saying to take it, but at least go read up on it.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 08:41 PM
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Gigi, I'm not saying everyone should take antibiotics—nor is Mel. They were suggested to him by the lab (Great Plains). That's what good about the testing, it pinpoints what works for each individuals body.

Sounds like you had the labs done and know what you are dealing with.

He does recommend the MMS and silver and feels it was a critical component in his healing. Personally, I'm not interested in taking silver because I think there is enough heavy metals in my body.

I'm just putting the info. out there. Personally, I pick and choose from different protocols those things I think will work for me.

I had the lab tests done and am awaiting the results myself.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM
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That's great, Zara... I'm glad you are getting the labs done. My naturopath also recommended against silver due to the heavy metal burden as well...
Hopefully, you will share your results when you get them back!

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Gigi, I'm not saying everyone should take antibiotics—nor is Mel. They were suggested to him by the lab (Great Plains). That's what good about the testing, it pinpoints what works for each individuals body.

Sounds like you had the labs done and know what you are dealing with.

He does recommend the MMS and silver and feels it was a critical component in his healing. Personally, I'm not interested in taking silver because I think there is enough heavy metals in my body.

I'm just putting the info. out there. Personally, I pick and choose from different protocols those things I think will work for me.

I had the lab tests done and am awaiting the results myself.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 06:22 PM
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Hi Baraka its me again...I tried horse dewormer by Equimax Ivermectin1.87%/Praziquantel 14.03% a couple of days ago. Man really sick with diarrehia and throwing up the first day. I think the throwing up was from this arrousing them making me have to cough and cough till i did throw up.. It wasn't the kind of throw up where I feel sick it was the kind from my throat clogging up. Give me your advise on this medication and what you think and if you have tried this. I will be waiting here for your response..Thank you

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