Here's an idea.....

[Kritters]

How about we stop posting new threads and having these (sometimes ugly) discussions about healthcare?

Let's focus on getting well so we can take care of ourselves!

Kritters

[wannadie]

Hey Kritters,
Im fairly new to the Morgies life (roughly 6 months in but have been hit hard)! My name is Susanna and Im a 37y/o Rn from Chicago. I agree reading some of the posts here can be frustrating when people are arguing over dumb sh_ _! I need real help! I read all theories and use what I believe is relevent. Currently have no health insurance and is truly a topic which needs to be discussed! Please email me anytime. I need a friend who suffers with this too. I really have emotional support from anyone and it is sending me into a deep downward spiral. Please get back at your leisure please. Rainbobrite36@aol.com
Susanna

[carla]

I doing it again .I can't help it .
The time has come for us to quit depending on other people to cure us.
THe Government are not going to come to our aid.
Any Doctor who says different from the Government will be struck off.
The Government say Morgellons is in the mind.So we are bottom of the pile.
They have promised to lock up the mentally ill though.

We need to take responsibility for ourselves.Start eating a few things raw.
You would be surprised how quickly you get used to it.
It fills you up quicker and longer.Your stomach goes flat again.
Your energy goes through the roof.
Processed food taste like chemicals now.
This is really true .I haven't thought about Morgellons for days.
3 weeks ago I couldn't get out of bed.

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by wannadie

Hey Kritters,
Im fairly new to the Morgies life (roughly 6 months in but have been hit hard)! My name is Susanna and Im a 37y/o Rn from Chicago. I agree reading some of the posts here can be frustrating when people are arguing over dumb sh_ _! I need real help! I read all theories and use what I believe is relevent. Currently have no health insurance and is truly a topic which needs to be discussed! Please email me anytime. I need a friend who suffers with this too. I really have emotional support from anyone and it is sending me into a deep downward spiral. Please get back at your leisure please. Rainbobrite36@aol.com
Susanna

Just want to let you know that I will email you Susanna. Also that there are many people here who are absolutely wonderful, caring, knowledgable and helpful. Please continue reading and you'll find them.

Kritters

[carla]

Kritters ,What did I post that wasn't true?
I ve tried everything and this is the answer.
I've been dealing with this for 5 years and if anything,it is being more covered up than ever.
Please Anyone who is suffering ,Get off the processed foods .
Eat what you can raw and definetly stop using your microwave.
Even our Milk is full of vaccines and Hormones.
Find a decent Farm shop or a Farmers Market and buy all your food local.
I spend £100 a week less on Food since I stopped using Tesco.
My Children and I are sleeping better too and they all have clear skin again.
I didn't wake up once last night.

[tcmgpt13]

I am sure that raw diets can help some people, just as for others they could be harmful. Much depends on age and the type of imbalance the body has. In my own case drinking a lot of fresh raw carrot juice with some apple added made me get hungry and cold. That was when I realized that one man's meat is another man's poison. Nowhere is this more literal than in the issue of diet choices. For me, as you say Carla, avoiding processed foods has been helpful, but it is better for me, too, if I make soup with good foods and sometimes an organic chicken and throw in some herbs. I do stay away from eating a lot of food at one time, which for me is better. I think we all have to find out what works for us. If I eat salad I need to balance the cold of the salad with a hot beverage and so on.

I suspect that in Carla's case that damp/heat could have been a problem for her and so eating raw food could help her symptoms and improve her health tremendously. I think we need to listen to what people say and then if we are interested try it. Still as a TCM friend used to say to me, if something does not work for you and you become worse then by all means do not continue in that direction. Sit back, reassess your options and try something else. The body is in constant change throughout life and what works at one point will no longer work at another.

Susanna I hope you will find some help here on the forum. There is a lot to be found in the posts which are already on this forum. There is even an extended treatment post for newbies. If you have questions I hope you will return to this thread and ask them. There are a lot of posters here who will offer help and their own unique views. Best to you for improved health.

[carla]

Tcm,
Thats a load of BS. We were meant to eat raw foods .Please tell me what possible harm eating raw carrots etc would do to a person.
By all means have your soup but realise you are cooking the nutrients out of it .
Proper nutrition will cure us of all illness.
Taking an antibiotic will do nothing but delay worse symtoms .

[cynical]

Originally Posted by carla

Tcm,
Thats a load of BS. We were meant to eat raw foods .Please tell me what possible harm eating raw carrots etc would do to a person.
By all means have your soup but realise you are cooking the nutrients out of it .
Proper nutrition will cure us of all illness.
Taking an antibiotic will do nothing but delay worse symtoms .

Well carrots have a lot of natural sugar in them so if you are hypoglycemic this would not be the vegetable of choice.

Some people do not convert beta carotene easily into vitamin A and it puts a strain on their livers.

Carrots are a root vegetable

hmmm......

I do agree with staying away from anything that comes from a box or jar that has ingredients you can not pronounce
and lunch meat of course!

Susanna have you had any test run yet? What are your biggest symptoms?

[carla]

Well carrots have a lot of natural sugar in them so if you are hypoglycemic this would not be the vegetable of choice.

Some people do not convert beta carotene easily into vitamin A and it puts a strain on their livers.

What causes this to happen though ,Cyn?The Crap in processed food I suspect.

[tcmgpt13]

Carla, it is not BS to eat some cooked foods. It does not mean that foods have to be overcooked. For some people, especially the elderly, eating something warming along with raw foods such as salad is very important to help neutralize the excessive cold effects on the body. This is called balancing food for the body constitution and is practiced by many people in the Orient. There are two traditions which follow food balancing of which I am aware. One is associated with Chinese medicine and the other is associated with Ayurvedic. I am more familiar with the Chinese tradition and in fact learned much of what I do know about balancing foods from the input of the Chinese people who have shared a few insights with me.

From : Diagnosis in Chinese Medicine: a comprehensive guide by Giovanni Maciocia

Eating too much cold food

‘Cold’ food includes raw fruit, raw vegetables and cold drinks. Patients are often surprised to be told that an excessive consumption of such foods might be detrimental as this advice runs counter to the prevailing view of ‘healthy’ eating, that is eating lots of fruits and salads in order to secure the maximum intake of vitamins and minerals. It is true that raw foods are rich in vitamins and minerals and a small consumption of such foods is not detrimental and indeed healthy. It becomes detrimental from the point of view of Chinese medicine only when the mainstay of someone’s diet is exclusively raw fruit and vegetables.

Excessive consumption of cold food (including cold drinks) injures the Spleen and leads to internal Cold in the body. This will cause a pale complexion, loose stools, tiredness, a feeling of cold, and abdominal pain.”

Of course the ill effects of consuming too much raw food may take some time to occur in the individual. Much depends on inherited constitution, age (older people are very likely to suffer from an excessive raw foods diet), overall health, climate and body type. Some people are too cold inside and that has always been a problem for me. Eating cold foods without balancing them or eating them to excess is a real problem for my inherited body type.

Here’s how the Chinese basically look at the causes of why the body may become imbalanced by poor food choices, which may lead to ill health over time (from above book):

“Our choice of foods can become unbalanced in four ways: eating too much cold food, eating too much hot food, eating too much greasy food, and not eating enough.”

For more information here is the google page:

Diagnosis in Chinese medicine: a ... - Google Books

This book continues for several pages Carla and you might like to read this whole section. I notice that on page 429 he discusses why he feels vaccines may be detrimental to the body (latent heat).

Here’s something interesting a Chinese couple shared with me about eating salad. First they said to be sure in my case to eat some green onions (scallions) with it and the second was to put croutons on top. Both were to help take away the excessive cold of the raw vegetables. Of course where I live the only scallions available are from Mexico and well....So a hot beverage is my substitute for the scallions. LOL Also I never drink iced water, but always drink it at room temperature.

This is a different approach to food and eating, one with which many in the West are unfamiliar. I find that following some of these ideas has helped me to improve my health, but of course this has been over time. I think we all need to make choices which help our own bodies which means following what works for us. To repeat a phrase from my above post: One man’s meat is another man’s poison.

tcmxxx

Originally Posted by carla

Tcm,
Thats a load of BS. We were meant to eat raw foods .Please tell me what possible harm eating raw carrots etc would do to a person.
By all means have your soup but realise you are cooking the nutrients out of it .
Proper nutrition will cure us of all illness.
Taking an antibiotic will do nothing but delay worse symtoms .