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Old October 7th, 2010, 07:19 PM
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I couldn't find a thread on amino acids (collectively). Just read this article about body builder protein supplements increasing life expectancy by 10 years!

Body builder protein powder 'could increase life expectancy by 10 years' | Mail Online

Dr Staninger reported that morgie's blood results showed deficiency in at least 50% of 23 amino acids needed for normal body functions and growth.

If anyone's got any lab results showing which amino acids were deficient, please post!

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Old October 7th, 2010, 08:09 PM
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I m deficient in everything ...........from A to Z..........morgellons is like a corporate business does the same job ...disintegrates it all......
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Old October 7th, 2010, 09:35 PM
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Hi Jo,



Great topic and I love to study amino acids and other nutritional supplements.

When I had Morg and I consulted with Dr. S, I didn't get any tests done because I was trying to save money. I did ask her about this topic though and I will share what she told me.

She said that Morg sets up its assembly in the intestine and that using the digestive cleanse that she recommends causes Morg to detach from the intestine. She also said that a protein product she recommends causes Morg to latch onto the protein once it is dislodged from the intestine.

I ask her if eating protein or using protein supplements such as hemp protein is also good and she said yes.
The most important thing was to get Morg colony or assembly to detach from the intestines and during this process either eat a lot of protein or some quality supplemental form of protein.

This is what I understood her to say. If I remember correctly she also said that Morg feeds on the protein in our bodies and this is why you want to use the intestinal cleasne and eat protein for 10 days to cause Morg to lose it's stronghold in the intestine.
No doubt that after this process and at anytime while battling Morg, it would important to use a good protein supplement such as whey or hemp to help replenish the body.

I know that a few pp in this forum think I work for Dr. S, but I don't and that is the truth regardless of the accusations. This is all I have to say regarding the group that tried to disqualify my recovery, etc.

I am here to help anyone who wants to listen.

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Old October 8th, 2010, 02:35 AM
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sure sounds like your promoting her though. whether you get money or not. since shes been proven to be a fraud, why mention her at all?
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Old October 8th, 2010, 05:43 AM
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I would like to post a precaution on this protein powder.

I am not sure but I will look right now about MELAMINE being put in the powder to give it a more specific protein reading.

When imagining that the USA USDA allows this poison plastic to be put in our food our livestocks food and in fertilizer it does not take a long strech of the imagination to understand that CHINA is learning ALL the bad habits from the west.

For a CHINESE producer to make super whey, egg, or soy protein the ingrediant that boosts test results will be MELAMINE.

I would not mind if someone would find a useable source of protein powder.

The situation at hand is that China can ship to any country what it likes, bought by unscupulos sellers then will be sold as made in CANADA or MADE in England or some other rest stop for the TONS of poison being fed to the USA and the world.

I was right after all, a google result is exactly my fears. Where do we go now and what do we do.

I see idiots think that melamine is protein rich, it is not, it is just a poison plastic that raises the test results artifically. POISON PLASTIC is just what it is, Plastic and Poison.

Get the crap out of our food, why in the world would we import and eat food from a country that has spoken about ways to empty the streets of American so they can just walk in and live in the empty homes, what kind of government have we allowed to florish.

What kind of MONSTERS does a dollar make. They have killed many children and the ones that did not die, many will have kidney problems for life.

I hope the CHINESE government is less a few hundred bullets for these killers.


Melamine in whey - Bodybuilding.com Forums


How to Make Natural Whey
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Old October 8th, 2010, 07:47 AM
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I was thinking about protein for some time taken the fact that morgs feed on protein adding protein to body means helping them grow??? I dunno .. just my concern taken the fact that I observed many morgies all over the net who came to same conclusion............ we can see protein being taken from our tissue we do not need Stanninger to confirm that lol

i doubt we can find pure protein powder these days i was looking into it already

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Old October 8th, 2010, 09:43 AM
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Baraka - interesting about the melamine. The discussion on the forum you posted is helpful and looks like they asked the companies where they were sourced etc and were confident they werent contaminated.
Melamine in whey - Bodybuilding.com Forums

Dzana and Chatcat - I think Dr S is right, that our deficiency in aminos and calcium ect is due to morgs stealing our supplies. How do we make sure our bodies are using them and not the morgs?

- Do muscle building exercise when dosing? or take aminos with an antifeedant, such as neem or aspirin?

Chatcat - its a an interesting idea about using protein as bate in the digestive tract. Have you tried her suggestion? Sugar would probably do a similar thing, but as soon as it hits the blood stream, morgs in the skin etc would have a party.

I know with the morgellons of olde, one treatment method used honey to draw the morgs out of the skin:

"They first soothingly massage the muscles and affected parts with the hand, and then also anoint them all over with honey. By this device the worms are enticed out as far as possible and so killed."
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I've bought an amino complex to see if any changes occur over the next month. Maybe my morgs will grow muscles lol

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Old October 8th, 2010, 02:10 PM
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I m not saying Staninger is wrong I m saying this is a catch 22 situation and i mean I can see loss of keratin and protein in my own case as most do... Morgs feed on it she says but then also if we take them we help them grow or we kill them??? makes no sense what she answered I wish I have clarification on that ..... If they feed on it then how can they detach from the tissue makes no sense????....on the other hand i believe that any form of supplements no matter if they r 10000 pounds worth wont be absorbed as long as we have absorbtion problem so it is such a waste ..........uncloging collon and intestinal area should come first and then add things that r being stolen from our bodies ,,,,,,,,,,,, there should be some order not just pouring everything into bodies at once

to be honest all those supplements I took for the past year did nothing until i started cleansing intestines and collon with clay since doing that i m noticing changes in bowel movements, in bloating etc...

JO that thing with the honey does not work I tried it year ago got worse in fact honey just sticks onto the skin ..massaging brings nothing out...none , niente, nichts, nicego,....... lol
lol Jo morgie Rambo

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Old October 8th, 2010, 04:48 PM
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Default cleanses and protein...

I know this is a little off topic... but this thread is weaving around a bit.
I think it is all connected and in my opinion clearing the Morg/biofilm from the intestines will help will absorption of amino acids and other nutrients. I also am unsure about using protein while trying to bind these pathogens... and the melamine (or even whey, unless those cow's are organically raised) and the possible issue of prions etc.

Any good cleanse should have the bentonite clay Dzana mentioned above to bind these toxins and some fiber in it to "sweep" the pathogens out during elimination. There are natural ingredients that assist in dissolving the mucoid biofilm also. The following info is from Morgellons Aid

the post is Mucoid Dissolving Cleanse M.D.C. Morgellons Aid

Mucoid Dissolving Cleanse M.D.C.

Order of Cleanses
In the process of detoxing the body one should cleanse in this order…


1.Colon Cleanses C.A.D. or M.D.C. or similar colon cleanse.
2.Kidney Cleanses
3.Parasite Cleanses
4.Liver Cleanses
5.Blood Cleanses

This will ensure that detoxing one organ system will not overburden the others. The Candida Albicans Detox (C.A.D.) or Mucoid Dissolve Cleanse (M.D.C.) or a similar colon cleanse will clear the gastrointestinal tract. This will allow the elimination of toxins and waste through the cleansed systems when undertaking the subsequent cleanses, ie Kidney Detox, Liver Detox and finally the blood detox. The Kidney, Liver and Blood Cleanses are relatively short detoxes that are often just a “fast” one day a week that can be built up to an extended three-day period. Suggestions for other cleanses and fasts available at Morgellons Aid.

These fasts or cleanses should be taken in the proper order when the body has adjusted to the probable ongoing C.A.D. or M.D.C. cleanse. Fasts and cleanses may lead to the body releasing built up toxins and result in a die off or herxheimer reaction. This is why the detox order should be followed. The body’s systems should be cleared in a progressive order to ensure that it can eliminate these released toxins. Fasts and cleanses should become a part of one’s routine taken fairly often. Once a week or bi-weekly rotated out through the schedule of cleanses and detoxes mentioned above.

Dissolving Mucous Biofilms

I believe that detox and healing cannot start until biofilm/mucous is addressed first. This is paramount to mitigating Morgellons. Let me repeat this… Detoxing without addressing the internal biofilm that coats the intestinal walls is futile (esp the use of antibiotics). I believe it to be counterproductive, the reason being the biofilm shields or protects pathogens such as fungi, bacteria and parasites within it. These pathogens are able to adapt and become immune to the antibiotics used if they are not completely eradicated.

Nutritional supplements are also blocked by the biofilm thus rendered ineffective. So it is a primary concern to take measures to dissolve this internal biofilm and to cleanse the small intestine alongside the use of topical treatments and internal cleanses. This step cannot be skipped if one realistically expects to take control of one’s health. The two most effective cleanses are intensive and combine herbal components such as psyllium husks and seeds with bentonite to aid in dissolving the biofilm and sweeping clean the small intestine. They are the Candida Albicans Detox and this similar Mucoid Dissolving Cleanse.

Herxheimer Reaction

Warning: One may suffer a worsening of certain symptoms during the use of many treatments and especially during cleanses. This is a short-term detoxification reaction in the body. This reaction is known as the Herxhiemer Reaction. This is a natural response to toxins and wastes that are released when parasites, fungi, viruses, bacteria and other pathogens are being effectively killed off and the body does not effectively eliminate the toxins quickly enough.

Methods of Relieving Herxheimer Reactions

•Drink plenty of filtered water.
•Add vitamin C to regimen.
•Add vitamin E to regimen.


Aids in Dissolving Mucous

•Okra Pepsin E3 Capsules This digests mucoid waste. Please note that the instructions on the bottle are to take this after each meal. It is recommended that one takes it on an empty stomach so that it will help dissolve the mucoid plaque lining the intestines rather than the food just eaten.
•Small Intestine Detox Capsules This helps soothe digestive tract tissues as well as help keep the pepsin stuck to the walls of the intestines to allow the pepsin work properly.
•Papain Powder This enzyme aids in digesting mucoid waste. Papain is the enzyme found in papaya.
•Organic Grape or Cherry juice Organic and unpasteurized juice preferably. These juices are very cleansing.
•Unfiltered Raw Apple Cider Vinegar Bragg’s is an especially good brand. It creates alkaline pH while dissolving mucous.
Avoid using unfiltered tap water.
•Liquid Bentonite Clay This binds up pathogens, heavy metals and other toxins and is not absorbed by the body.
•Psyllium Husk & Seed Powder This fiber sweeps the colon and pushes loosened material out to be eliminated.
•Probiotic Capsules This will re-establish the healthy flora in the G.I. tract.
•Cayenne Capsules This increases circulation, aids in the peristalsis movement of the bowel and breaks up and dissolves mucoid waste.
•Pancreatin Capsules digest mucoid plaque.
•Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth Aids in sweeping the colon. Also is a parasitical agent.
•Caprol Oil contains many fatty acids and is a powerful fungicidal and antibacterial agent.

I have put links to recommended sources on the above products that are active at MA.
Mucoid Dissolving Cleanse M.D.C. Morgellons Aid

An internet search will yield other suppliers. I particularly like Vitacost.com. These may also be found at local health food stores.

During detox programs it helps to use massage or a dry brush to circulate and eliminate the toxins that one’s body will be releasing. Natural bristle skin brush stimulates flow of lymph towards the bowel to be excreted. Also see the Rebounding post for an alternative for moving lymph.

Mucoid Dissolving Cleanse

Before Breakfast

Mix together in an empty jar with a tight-fitting lid, adding psyllium last as it thickens and gels quickly.

•5 oz Grape or Cherry juice
•3 oz Filtered Water
•3 tablespoons liquid Bentonite Clay
•1 heaping teaspoon of Psyllium Husk & Seed Powder
•1/2 teaspoon Papain Powder
•1/2 teaspoon Food Grade D.E.
•1 – 2 tablespoons of Caprol ( Half olive oil and half coconut oil)
Shake well to mix in the jar and drink quickly as this mixture will thicken rapidly. The following supplements should be taken at the same time.

Supplements


•2 Probiotic Capsules
•2 Cayenne Capsules
Mix 6 oz of filtered water with 1 tablespoon unfiltered apple cider vinegar and drink. This aids in two ways. Apple cider vinegar will aid in dissolving the mucoid plaque and the extra liquid will be absorbed by the psyllium to aid in cleansing the colon.

During the day drink Apple Cider Vinegar Drinks or a freshly juiced citrus drink. These will assist in breaking up the mucoid plaque.

One Hour Before lunch and Dinner

These supplements should be taken with citrus or cider.

•2 Pancreatin Capsules
•2 Okra-pepsin E3 Capsules
•2 Small Intestine Detox Capsules
Final Supplements of the Day

•6 Pancreatin Capsules
•6 Okra-pepsin E3 Capsules
•6 Small Intestine Detox Capsules
This last regimen of the day can be taken with fruit or juice.

How Long?

The cleanse can be followed as long as a person feels necessary. I would suggest 1 -2 months at the least. This detox and the candida albicans detox can be useful if followed for a long period of time such as 6 month or longer. The build up of mucoid plaque and biofilms have taken a lifetime to accumulate and will not be eliminated overnight. These cleanses will allow your body to feel and function so much better. Listen to your body and follow your instinct.


Before Showering

Skin brushing with a natural bristle brush. Brush all parts of the body towards the heart. Remember to sanitize the brush with white vinegar or a liquid enzyme such as Kleen Green afterwards. One can omit this lymph circulating treatment if one has broken skin or open lesions. A detox bath would be a great substitution.

A Few Words

Rather intensive Detox recipe I realize. I have used the Candida Albicans Detox for quite some time and I have had a lot of success with it. After researching more on the subject I’ve begun adding papain enzymes and cayenne capsules to the detox recipe I am currently using. These detoxes quickly become routine and simple to do. There are components in this recipe that I believe would greatly enhance the C.A. Detox and vice versa. Find one that is easy to incorporate with one’s daily routine and stick with it.

Good Health to You.
Xiblanque/Wolfe

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Old October 8th, 2010, 05:14 PM
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xib good one Thank You.., personally I m starting to avoid anything in capsule form rather open them up.... after reading what they r made from and its links to.......... prion disease etc........

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