Vaccines - this is scary!

[Sadsack]

With H1N1 being declared a level 6 pandemic, and the Patriot act providing for mandatory vaccinations in the case of a declared pandemic, this could spell Armaggedon.

Qld scientists claim swine flu vaccine breakthrough

Qld scientists claim swine flu vaccine breakthrough
June 28, 2009 - 7:28PM
Scientists at the University of Queensland have developed a vaccine for swine flu.
The breakthrough against the influenza A(H1N1) virus will be announced at the university's Australian Institute for Bioengineering and Nanotechnology tomorrow.
Five Australians with swine flu have died while more than 3000 have been diagnosed.
"It's one of the first swine flu vaccines made but, unfortunately, it can't be used in Australia yet," a university spokesman said.
"It's not registered for use in Australia yet."
Meanwhile, scientists from CSL say its Melbourne laboratory has created an effective sample of a vaccine against the influenza, but human trials are needed to determine the right dosage and may not be available until next winter.
Fairfax Media says the federal government has ruled out releasing the vaccine early to vulnerable groups such as the elderly or those with chronic illnesses.
Rachel David from CSL said results of the trial - involving 240 healthy adults from South Australia - would determine when the 10 million doses ordered by the government would be distributed.
Dr David said the earliest the vaccine would be ready for use is mid- to late-August, but if the virus continued to produce mild symptoms the government might delay distribution until next year.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration, the government and public health experts, not CSL, would control when the vaccine is available.
All five people who have died in Australia with swine flu - two Western Australians and three Victorians - had underlying health conditions.

[Baraka Obam]

Innoculations may have been responsable for soldiers getting this, what would our illustrious scientists do for a answer, after all most of the soldiers are from poor familys, nothing more than lab rats, after all, Joe Sixpack won't complain and even if he would what would he complain about,!!!!!!! I wonder what these wise men think when they are actually doing stuff like spraying small areas or citys with pathogens, or using our military for radioactive fallout and blast results, shooting radioactive fluids into peoples veins because they don't know what it will do (they did this to young and old people, known fact in the fiftys), how about using black men as syphilis test subjects without telling them. I guess it was ok to do these things, our government did it for the greater good of the world, yeah right!!!!!!

[jonsi]

Duh, football! This thread has everything to do with vaccines! Please dig deep into this thread!

Health Freedom Threats: Codex, FDA, Vaccinations, GMOs :: HealthFreedomUSA.org

In the white light,
~jonsi

[kmar]

Carla has posted a petition to voice our opinion on forced vaccines. I signed it.

If I live to see forced vaccines, it will be a very sad day. I often wonder if the vaccines that became mandated in the 1950's and 1960's here in the United States is a reason for the increase in Cancer for so many 30, 40 and 50 year olds. When it was mandated in the after WW2, studies indicated that there was a very strong possibility that it may cause cancer down the road, but they still thought it was better to prevent the diseases killing children with the vaccines.

( sorry that I don't have a Link on that info, just read it somehwere )

THE United States required even MORE vaccinations that European countries in the late 50's early 60's when forced baby vaccines started. Every decade, they add more vaccines to the babies which I think is simply terrible.

[carla]

It is all going to start off in September . They have asked teachers to prepare for getting children vaccinated in school.

The UK are going to say,' No Vaccines =No school'
Then Social Services/CPS will be calling.
In the UK they jail parents for not getting their children to school.
I'm really begining to panic.I wish this was a conspiracy theory.


Heres the Petition again A UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF RESISTANCE TO MANDATORY VACCINATIONS - The Petition Site

[jonsi]

Hi Carla,

I signed the petition and everyone else should too, It was easy and fast!

Itwl,
~jonsi

[tcmgpt13]

Isn't there a way to get around vaccines for flu by stating an allergy to eggs? Unless they have changed the way that they are made this could be one way out of it. Perhaps finding out what preservatives are added and saying you are allergic to one of those could be another way out. Also try getting off any primary care physicians' list and do not go to any of them if you don't have one (I don't have a primary care doctor and I don't see any doctors where I live which could be another way to dodge what is happening--all mine are at least a couple hours drive away). I rather doubt that other doctors will be very involved in flu shots.

Carla, is home schooling allowed in UK? That would be one way out of enforced vaccinations. I sometimes wonder how long it will be before the socialists in US try to stop this type of schooling (socialists being a euphemism for the c word).

[carla]

They have began to crack down on schoolhoming already TC.
Apparantly it is a cover for child abuse.

Get tough on home tuition to weed out abuse, says review | Education | The Guardian

[carla]

Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents

You couldn't make this up.Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents by Mike Adams the Health Ranger

[tcmgpt13]

Why are we not surprised. Testing on new swine flu vaccines will continue while in the meantime the vaccine will be used on guinea pigs also called human beings. I am not happy to hear that adjuvants are being added in Europe...some feel this may have been a problem with the antrax vaccine. Here's a bit about that. More in this article about the questionable additions of adjuvants to vaccines. Oh yeah, these guys have people's best interests at heart, uh huh, yeah right (and it looks as if they are figuring out a way to circumvent the egg allergy excuse as a way to avoid these vaccines):

Adjuvants to be added to H1N1 vaccine by Baxter and WHO programme body for “endless loop of self destruction” Case about Bird Flu

In spite of the evidence that adjuvants are at best useless, vaccine companies such as Baxter and Novartis are rolling out vaccines which contain adjuvants like squalene (MF 59), a substance added to the anthrax vaccine given to US soldiers, causing tens of thousands of Iraq Desert Storm soldiers to suffer permanent neurological damage.

The Associated Press: Novartis starts testing its swine flu vaccine

Novartis starts testing its swine flu vaccine
By MARIA CHENG, Associated Press Writer Maria Cheng, Associated Press Writer 30 mins ago

LONDON – Swiss drugmaker Novartis has begun injecting its swine flu vaccine into people in the company's first human tests, a spokesman said Wednesday.

The vaccine is being tested in a yearlong trial of 6,000 people of all ages in Britain, Germany and the United States, Novartis spokesman Eric Althoff told The Associated Press, adding that the vaccine will likely be on the market before the trial finishes.

A person in Britain became the first to get the swine flu vaccine about 10 days ago, he said.

Sanofi-Pasteur, which makes about 40 percent of the world's flu vaccines, expects to start testing its swine flu vaccine within days in the U.S. and Europe, according to spokesman Benoit Rungeard. Sanofi-Pasteur is a unit of Paris-based Sanofi-Aventis SA.

Since swine flu was declared to be a pandemic, or global outbreak, by the World Health Organization in June, pharmaceuticals have been racing to get their vaccines ready. Last month, Australian drugmaker CSL became the first vaccine maker to start testing its vaccine in humans in Australia.

"We initiated clinical trials about 10 days ago," Althoff said.

Half of Novartis' vaccines being tested are grown in chicken eggs, the traditional way of making flu vaccines, while the other half use a new cell-based technology.

The trial will test the vaccine's safety and whether one or two shots are necessary.

"Our assumption is that two doses will be required," Althoff said.

The vaccines being tested in Europe use an adjuvant, an ingredient used to boost the body's immune response. In the U.S., however, Novartis is only testing vaccines without adjuvants, Althoff said.

WHO recommends that countries use vaccines with adjuvants, to stretch the global supply of swine flu vaccine. However there are no licensed flu vaccines with adjuvants in the United States.

Once Novartis AG has preliminary data from the trial, they will submit that to drug regulators including the European Medicines Agency. European and U.S. regulators have a fast-track process for approving swine flu vaccine, to ensure it is available before the flu season starts in the fall, when swine flu is expected to surge.

The European Medicines Agency has previously said swine flu vaccines based on a pre-approved bird flu vaccine could be licensed within five days, even without extensive testing in humans.

Last month, WHO reported that the swine flu viruses being used to make the vaccine were not growing enough of a key ingredient, and said they were only producing half as much "yield" as regular flu viruses. The agency asked its laboratory network to produce a new set of viruses for vaccine makers to use.

Althoff confirmed that Novartis is only getting about 30 to 50 percent of the usual yield it gets from flu viruses to make vaccines. Novartis made its vaccines with WHO's original set of flu viruses, and hasn't yet started working with the new viruses.

The low virus yield could mean delays in when countries get their vaccine orders filled.

More than 35 countries have placed orders with Novartis for swine flu, or H1N1 vaccine, including France, the Netherlands, and Switzerland. The U.S. has ordered $979 million worth of bulk vaccine and Novartis' adjuvant.

Althoff said the company expected to start shipping vaccine in the last quarter of 2009 and will continue the deliveries next year.

GlaxoSmithKline PLC, which has orders for 291 million doses of vaccine from countries including Britain, has not yet started testing its vaccine in humans. The U.S. has also ordered $250 million worth of vaccine ingredients from Glaxo.

Since swine flu emerged in April, it has killed at least 1,154 people worldwide and is estimated to have infected millions.

In India on Wednesday, hundreds of anxious people crowded a hospital waiting to be tested for swine flu. Panic spread in the city of Pune and fights broke out at the city's top hospital after authorities reported the country's first swine flu fatality two days ago.

In other efforts to fight swine flu, a Saudi health ministry official said Wednesday that authorities will require religious pilgrims to have a medical certificate showing they don't suffer from chronic diseases.

Khaled al-Merghalani also said children and the elderly will be banned from the annual hajj pilgrimage.