Just how in the world could anyone cath this disease.

[Baraka Obam]

I know the ideas abound on how one would catch this or how easy it is to transmit.

This little situation has rattled around in my haid for some time.

If this was passed by bugs and the bugs that transmitted it come out of our skin then most everyone would have these bugs, thus everyone would have more issues and more people here would also be presenting clear consise pictures of them. I am not debating the issue that some people have parasites, I had one. Hopefully it and its millions of family members are gone from my ivermectin treatment.

Anyway

If this disease was not a LONG term disease then everyone that caught this easily would also be showing the signs that older people do.

Most of the younger ones are dealing with smaller lesions, from what I am hearing, thats a good thing for them because they can keep this at bay with work and may never get the symptoms longer term sufferers have,

If this disease was not long term and also EASY to catch from our homes, enviroment and cars, everyone we know would be scratching up a storm and sick as dogs.

You only have to imagine the situation of surgeons, coroners, nurses, plumbers, HOUSE CLEANERS.

If this was easy to catch and not a long term disease they would all be afflicted and have long term symptoms anyway that is what I am imagining.

Annesco hope your still hanging out. I have a real funny feeling things may be just a bit more congenial here.

[Jo]

Here's the one word I choose to sum up whatever causes morgellons:

Insidious

Definition:
"Operating or proceeding in an inconspicuous or seemingly harmless way but actually with grave effect: an insidious disease. "

It comes from the Latin word for 'ambush'.

Insidious | Define Insidious at Dictionary.com

1) According to suffer narratives it may infect through ingesting food & water, breathing contaminated air, penetrating skin defences- if these narratives are right morgellons is prolific.

2) Strong possibility an infected person can be asymptomatic for years, until the immune system falters.

If the above turns out to be true, morgellons could be very very chronic in the general population.

I had slight symptoms for at least 7 years before I started to worry that something abnormal was happening - which kicked off due to mega stress.

Jo

[Pollyringworm]

Originally Posted by Baraka Obam

I know the ideas abound on how one would catch this or how easy it is to transmit.

This little situation has rattled around in my haid for some time.

If this was passed by bugs and the bugs that transmitted it come out of our skin then most everyone would have these bugs, thus everyone would have more issues and more people here would also be presenting clear consise pictures of them. I am not debating the issue that some people have parasites, I had one. Hopefully it and its millions of family members are gone from my ivermectin treatment.

Anyway

If this disease was not a LONG term disease then everyone that caught this easily would also be showing the signs that older people do.

Most of the younger ones are dealing with smaller lesions, from what I am hearing, thats a good thing for them because they can keep this at bay with work and may never get the symptoms longer term sufferers have,

If this disease was not long term and also EASY to catch from our homes, enviroment and cars, everyone we know would be scratching up a storm and sick as dogs.

You only have to imagine the situation of surgeons, coroners, nurses, plumbers, HOUSE CLEANERS.

If this was easy to catch and not a long term disease they would all be afflicted and have long term symptoms anyway that is what I am imagining.

Annesco hope your still hanging out. I have a real funny feeling things may be just a bit more congenial here.

Trying to figure out the vector will be a tough one. You could speculate that this originated in insects, and is transmitted much like malaria.

If we had some epidemiologists on board, wed know the right questions to ask. Also, most of us agree that there is a dormant stage of this disease and that weve experienced some minor symptoms for years before we became acute.

I agree that this is very active in the body. We can put it back in remission, but it wont go away until its studied and tested properly to determine what will eliminate it.

[annesco]

Very much in agreement. I look back and can note that I have experienced several of these symptoms in the past, but not long enough or acute enough to take notice. The bird mite infestation that kicked it off may simply have been the straw that broke the camel's back, since I had a flea infestation with multiple bites just weeks before, and black fly bites as well. I must admit that I got totally hysterical too, with the emotions spiking, and definitely tried to "self-medicate" with pinot grigio on a daily basis. If only I knew then what we know now!

[csidegalNH]

Originally Posted by Pollyringworm

Trying to figure out the vector will be a tough one. You could speculate that this originated in insects, and is transmitted much like malaria.

If we had some epidemiologists on board, wed know the right questions to ask. Also, most of us agree that there is a dormant stage of this disease and that weve experienced some minor symptoms for years before we became acute.

I agree that this is very active in the body. We can put it back in remission, but it wont go away until its studied and tested properly to determine what will eliminate it.

Polly, I agree with everything you say. For many ,many years I had the small sores. Now the past year symptoms have increased 10X over crawling,stabbing, itching, severity and occurence of lesions, as well as mental and physical exhaustion.

From what I see there is a huge correlation with healthcare workers having a higher prevalence of Morgellons symptoms and I don't think this is due to frequent contact with others who were infected also.

Many believe that this can remain dormant until fibers have made contact with a liquid ie. water to activate.

I don't believe it is only acquired by fluid exchange during our close intimate relations, but know body can say for sure and only merely speculate.

[janak]

I have had no symptoms previoulsy. No skins issues and no health problems.
It all started with the black specs in the hair and then skin, this was not long after a weekend away by the coast.

[scabdraggr]

Jo is absolutely on the right track with her perceptions.It's Chronic,hidden with no signs of growth for a long time.Once the insides are thouroughly infested then the PH goes awry and the lesions can grow rapidly when the lifeform lands on th skin.Some may even erupt from our blood vessels to create a lesion and reproduce.After living inside our small intestine for a while they become huge and often eat through the intestinal wall and cause e-coli to proliferate inside the body cavity.The acidious nature of the BloodStream starts creating calcium oxalate for the kidneys to deal with along with the infestation inside them already.The gall bladder and it's tiny bile duct doesn't have a chance once the lifeform arrives there and grows to stop the flow of bile.The level of gall bladder surgeries to correct this through removal is phenomanal and should have already set off alarm bells for the medical community that is getting rich from M patients that show no external signs of M.The poor thyroid is often full of black double pointed fibers as are the facial cysts that some have.Mens testicals are often full of hard silicon like worms with black fibers,The prostrate can have horrible issues as the lfs start eating away and I experienced this myself and barely saved my sanity from the biting and movement.The little things at night would run in and out of my anal area.I pulled two huge nests out of my ear and many of the little things that are the sam as the anal runners that party at night.My first stool specimen that I checked seemed to have a life of it's own as upon viewing it seemed to pulse with the huge amount of clear threadworm like things that covered the stool.Before the feces would exit my body,my BP skyrocketed,my heartbeat went fluttery along with not knowing if I were breathing.A ruptured capsule from a lesion would have this same affect.My sheets in the morning were so covered with the leaking fluid from the lesions that I had to peel the sheets off my body and throw them away.Recently after taking the proper meds,many clear to dirty worms came out my mouth,nose and elsewhere.I'm almost 100% cured these days but still monitor my residual material.I know the truth about M and it's horror show.We have a worldwide problem that just might be beyond the tipping point for healing a planet.The real conversation has now begun.Let's roll with it everyone.What can I speak about that might help someone here on mdr?

[scabdraggr]

it's me in thse pics and I have much to share if anyone is interested.I at the moment have to leave for a coupla hrs to see my daughter so excuse me for not showing the pics of my skin and others but will do so shortly as I have a story to tell.These specimens are from the prostrate.

[Baraka Obam]

I would like to know the avenue that you took to decipher this disease in its modes and operation.

Did you work in a lab or are you secretly disassembling your neighbors.

To see inside the human body is wonderful, but then even if you can see inside what are you seeing.

How do you know mens testicles are full of silicon worms, do you have a silicon worm test kit. These things I must ask as I have never been able to just accept situations as they are told to me.

I will have a hard time believing that anyone that is not a pathologist, a scientist and a coroner will know exactly what is what, where it is, were it goes, what it is made of and how it works exactly.

Then still you may have to be GOD to know.

Then I have problems, I just can't get right, LOL.

[Baraka Obam]

Originally Posted by csidegalNH

Polly, I agree with everything you say. For many ,many years I had the small sores. Now the past year symptoms have increased 10X over crawling,stabbing, itching, severity and occurence of lesions, as well as mental and physical exhaustion.

From what I see there is a huge correlation with healthcare workers having a higher prevalence of Morgellons symptoms and I don't think this is due to frequent contact with others who were infected also.

Many believe that this can remain dormant until fibers have made contact with a liquid ie. water to activate.

I don't believe it is only acquired by fluid exchange during our close intimate relations, but know body can say for sure and only merely speculate.

I have heard this from others and some of the health care workers that are actully members here, yes , but really have not seen health care workers any more devistated than the GENERAL population

Then I have not seen this HUGE AMOUNT and if there is
such a amount more why do they say we are crazy if they also have it.

How dare the huge mass of doctors and nurses have crawling, biting and lesions and call us crazy.

Lets be real, if this was actually the case the doctors would be rageing about the illness, they would be complaining also that they could not find any nurses that were not infected for hanky panky..

Police that handle all the junkies and low living ghetto bums, those police would look like night of the living dead by now, they touch them, they tackle them, they get bit by them, blood also gets ON them, and some times in them.

If a officer gets stuck by a needle OR gets blood or spit in His/Her eyes, mouth, or open cut they are tested for more than six months to make sure they have not contracted HIV or any other disease the perp may have, this is not done unless the perps fluids meet up with the officers fluids.

NOW people with imaginations, what does that suggest to you, does it suggest that maybe the most prolific way to catch disease from another is fluid, yes it does.