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May 10th, 2011, 06:06 PM
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 methyl butyl ammonium chloride and nano particles I found this comment posted 1 month ago in response to a video of a woman who was demonstrating her fibers. I don't have a science background, but maybe someone here can look into this. I purposely didn't post ID since I figure he/she went out on a limb to divulge confidential information. "methyl butyl ammonium chloride led to disassembly of the polymer-nano-particle network in the lab. But I am not a doctor. I got this from a research brief, never mind where. You need to find a dr. to see if this could work for people. I heard one from OSU has identified some of the nano-particles; his name is Dr. Randy Wymore" EDIT - I tried to reply, but this did not show up in forum. Sorry if you see a duplicate. This morning I decided to readdress this post I put out a long time ago. Yes, I agree that no one should trust or believe any post 100%, and should use intellect and instinct through the research process. However, like many, I believe that the stalled recognition, and investigation of this disease is proof of a very big coverup. SO, with that said, when someone takes the time to post something odd, and is seeking no financial gain, I listen. I discount no one. That comment could have been put out there as a tip from someone who may fear putting out too much information. That person may have been required to sign a non disclosure agreement in a board room, and could not say more, lest be sued. Just think how many people with M have been discounted, or threatened. So with that thought in mind, I started researching again. I wish I understood chemicals, buy I don't. This AM, I was searching to find medication that may have this chemical component. I did not find anything yet, but I found that parts of this ingredient were used for old illnesses. I did find something interesting though, and so I will share with you all. http://www.acuitybrandslighting.com/...patibility.pdf . This document contains two lists: On the left is a list of NOT acceptable chemicals and other ingredients that industry professionals should stay away from since whatever is on that list can damage the acrylics and machines. On the right are acceptable chemicals that won't break down their products. Interestingly, Methyl Butyl Ammonium Chloride was on the NOT acceptable list. One "NOT acceptable" ingredient that breaks down the machine is really cool because it is healthy - CLOVES. This document discuss how vapors are damaging to machines as well, so hmmm, I think I will be inhaling some good old cloves today and bathing in them to. Certain chemicals that may exist in end-user locations release airborne contaminants that can impact the integrity and safety of key fixture components that contain acrylic material. Immediate damage may occur such as crazing, cracking, permeation losses and mechanical failure. Products with visually noticeable deterioration have diminished integrity and must be replaced immediately with a more suitable product for the application. "This table identifies the most common chemicals and is not intended to be all-inclusive. Exposure to compounds identified as “Not Acceptable” will void all warranties associated Acrylic & Polycarbonate Compatibility The statements, technical information and recommendations obtained herein are for informational purposes and may not be current as to recent revisions." ...."Acrylic components should not be used in areas where these chemicals are used and where these chemicals become mists or airborne vapors. Ensure that chemical interactions are considered when selecting fixtures. For additional information please consult an authorized factory representative. List Below: Obviously, most of these NOT ACCEPTABLE for machine ingredients are not good for the human body. It is interesting though. I highlighted some that I have come in contact with that brought out morgellons. For example, I would say about ten or more years ago, I was cleaning up woth a paint remover and droves of black specks came from my hands. This lasted for hours. AT that time, I thought it was soft splinters from gardening. Who knew anything about M? I also found that benzyl alcohol worked great when I was in the severe itchy stage this past year. It is used to kill lice. Tincture of iodine, mineral oil and vegetable oils also worked well. Isopropyl alcohol on a cotton swab got rid or the inner ear itch. Certain detergents like joy soap worked. Glass cleaners with glycol melted the clear goo from my feet. I used acetone on my bites too. Yes, I know it is bad, bad, bad, but I didn't care. I wanted this organism off of me. I had great success when I put clear nail polish over my bites on my back to suffocate the organism before I knew t it was M, thinking I would suffocate scabies. Did I cut off air supply, but also reduce the machine? Who knows. Is this post insane? Is Morgellons insane? Yes, but we are not insane. Those who created it are. I didn't use any chemicals regularly, and for the most part stick with herbs and antibiotics, but those items I listed helped tremendously. Especially the window cleaner and antibacterial gel. Will I get sicker because of these chemicals I used? I look at it this way. If there are nano particles, machines, silicone, or whatever, which is worse if used in moderation? I am doing very well and so I try and detox from all of this. No cure, but much,, much better. NOT ACCEPTABLE - BREAKS DOWN THE MACHINE. Acetaldehyde, 100% Acetates Acetic Acid, Glacial, 100% Acetic Anhydride Acetone Acetonitrile Acetophenone Acrylic Paints Alcohol, Allyl Alcohol, Amyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Ethyl, 100% Alcohol, Ethyl, 50% Alcohol, Isopropyl, 100% Alcohol, Methyl, 10% Alcohol, Methyl, 100% Alcohol, Methyl, 50% Alcohol, N-Butyl Amyl Acetate Aniline Aviation Fuel (100 Octane) Benzaldehyde Benzene Benzoic Aldehyde Brake Fluid Bromine Gas Butanol Butraldehyde Butyl Acetyl Ricinoleate Butyl Stearate Carbolic Acid Carbon Disultide Cellulose Paints Chlorinated Hydrocarbons Chlorinated Solvents Chlorine Gas Chlorophenol Chromic Acid, 40% Cloves Cosmoline Removers Cresol Cyclohexane Cyclohexanone Cyclohexene Detergent Solution Diacetone Alcohol Diamyl Phthalate Dibutyl Sebacate Diethyl Ether Dimethyl Formamide Dioctyl Sebacate Dioxane Ether Ethyl Acetate Ethyl Alcohol, Concentrated Ethyl Bromide Ethyl Butyrate Ethylene Bromide Ethylene Dibromide Ethylene Oxide (Moist) Glass Cleaners Glycol Hydrogen Peroxide, 28% Hydrogen Peroxide, 3% Iron Perchloride Isoctane Isopropyl Alcohol Lacquer Thinner Lactic Acid Butyl Ester Mercury Chloride Meta-Cresol Methanol, 15% Methanol, Concentrated Methyl Benzoate Methyl Chloride Methyl Cycohexanol Methyl Ethyl Ketone Methyl Naphthalene Methyl Salicyclate Methylamine Methylene Dichloride Mineral Oil Motor Fuel Mixture, with Benzene Nail Polish Naphtha N-Butyric Acid, 100% Nitric Acid, 40% Nitric Acid, 70% Nitrobenzene N-Octane Paint Removers Paint Thinner Perchlorethylene Petroleum Ether (100-120C) Phenois Phenol, Aqueous, 5% Phosphoric Acid, 95% @ 20C Phthalates Pyridine Sodium Carbonate, 2% Sodium Carbonate, 20% Sodium Phosphate Sulfur Dioxide, Liquid Sulfuric Acid, 98% Sulfurous Acid, Concentrated Tincture of Iodine, 5% Toluene Transformer Oil Trichloraethane Trichloroacetic Acid Trichloroethylene Turpentine Unleaded Gasoline Vegetable Oil Xylene ACCEPTABLE (PROTECTS THE MACHINES) 2-Ethylhexyl Sebacate Acetic Acid 5% Ammonia-based Cleaners Ammonia Gas Ammonium Hydroxide, 28% Ammonium Nitrate Ammonium Phosphate Aniseed, Bay Leaves, Nutmeg Anti-freeze Beer Bleaching Power Paste Bleaching Powder Solution, 2% Calcium Hypochlorite Car Wash Detergent Carbon Dioxide Gas Carbon Monoxide Gas Caustic Potash Chlorine Based Cleaners Chlorine, Aqueous, 2% Citric Acid, 10% Coffee Cooking Oil Cottonseed Oil Diethylene Glycol Epoxy Adhesives Ethyl Alcohol, 15% Ethylene Glycol E Ethylene Oxide (Dry) Ferric Chloride, Aqueous, 10% Formaldehyde, Aqueous, 40% Fruit Juice Glycerol Heptane Hexane Hydrochloric Acid, 38% Kerosene Lactic Acid Metal Carbonates Metal Chlorides Metal Sulfates Methane Gas Milk Milk, Chocolate Motor Fuel Mixture, without Benzene Motor Oil Natural Gas Nitric Acid, 10% Nitrogen Dioxide Gas Nitrogen Monoxide Gas Olefric Carbolic Acids Oleic Acid Olive Oil Oxalic Acid, 100% Oxygen Gas Ozone Gas Paraffi n, Medicinal Pepper, Cinnamon, Onions Phosphoric Acid, 10% @ 20C Photographic Baths Polishing Compounds Potassium Chlorate Potassium Cyanide Potassium Dichromate, 10% Potassium Hydroxide @ 20C Potassium Permanganate Potassium Sulfi te Power Steering Fluid Propylene Pure-oil Paints Silicone Oil Silver Nitrate Soap Suds Soda Sodium Chloride, 10% Sodium Cyanide Sodium Fluoride Sodium Hydroxide, 60% Sodium Nitrate Sodium Thiosulphate, 40% Stearic Acid Sulfur Dioxide, Dry Gas Sulfuric Acid, 30% Sulfurous Acid, 5% Tararic Acid, 50% Transmission Fluid Tricresyl Phosphate Triethyl Amine Vinegar Water, Mineral Water Wax Polish White Spirit Whitewash Wine Last edited by TheOtherMe; September 20th, 2011 at 08:19 PM. 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also when they say theyre not a doctor but.....giving advice anyway? i wouldnt trust that. id rather hear real people telling me what has worked for them, what hasnt, even opinions are fine.but anybody with a cure is probably fraud. if there was a cure, the CDC would know. docs would know ( wheather the doctors tell you or not) but we would have heard about it someplace..
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 New Information This morning I decided to readdress this post I put out a long time ago. Yes, I agree that no one should trust or believe any post 100%, and should use intellect and instinct through the research process. However, like many, I believe that the stalled recognition, and investigation of this disease is proof of a very big coverup. SO, with that said, when someone takes the time to post something odd, and is seeking no financial gain, I listen. I discount no one. That comment could have been put out there as a tip from someone who may fear putting out too much information. That person may have been required to sign a non disclosure agreement in a board room, and could not say more, lest be sued. Just think how many people with M have been discounted, or threatened. So with that thought in mind, I started researching again. I wish I understood chemicals, buy I don't. This AM, I was searching to find medication that may have this chemical component. I did not find anything yet, but I found that parts of this ingredient were used for old illnesses. I did find something interesting though, and so I will share with you all. http://www.acuitybrandslighting.com/...patibility.pdf . This document contains two lists: On the left is a list of NOT acceptable chemicals and other ingredients that industry professionals should stay away from since whatever is on that list can damage the acrylics and machines. On the right are acceptable chemicals that won't break down their products. Interestingly, Methyl Butyl Ammonium Chloride was on the NOT acceptable list. One "NOT acceptable" ingredient that breaks down the machine is really cool because it is healthy - CLOVES. This document discuss how vapors are damaging to machines as well, so hmmm, I think I will be inhaling some good old cloves today and bathing in them to. Certain chemicals that may exist in end-user locations release airborne contaminants that can impact the integrity and safety of key fixture components that contain acrylic material. Immediate damage may occur such as crazing, cracking, permeation losses and mechanical failure. Products with visually noticeable deterioration have diminished integrity and must be replaced immediately with a more suitable product for the application. "This table identifies the most common chemicals and is not intended to be all-inclusive. Exposure to compounds identified as “Not Acceptable” will void all warranties associated Acrylic & Polycarbonate Compatibility The statements, technical information and recommendations obtained herein are for informational purposes and may not be current as to recent revisions." ...."Acrylic components should not be used in areas where these chemicals are used and where these chemicals become mists or airborne vapors. Ensure that chemical interactions are considered when selecting fixtures. For additional information please consult an authorized factory representative. List Below: Obviously, most of these NOT ACCEPTABLE for machine ingredients are not good for the human body. It is interesting though. I highlighted some that I have come in contact with that brought out morgellons. For example, I would say about ten or more years ago, I was cleaning up woth a paint remover and droves of black specks came from my hands. This lasted for hours. AT that time, I thought it was soft splinters from gardening. Who knew anything about M? I also found that benzyl alcohol worked great when I was in the severe itchy stage this past year. It is used to kill lice. Tincture of iodine, mineral oil and vegetable oils also worked well. Isopropyl alcohol on a cotton swab got rid or the inner ear itch. Certain detergents like joy soap worked. Glass cleaners with glycol melted the clear goo from my feet. I used acetone on my bites too. Yes, I know it is bad, bad, bad, but I didn't care. I wanted this organism off of me. I had great success when I put clear nail polish over my bites on my back to suffocate the organism before I knew t it was M, thinking I would suffocate scabies. Did I cut off air supply, but also reduce the machine? Who knows. Is this post insane? Is Morgellons insane? Yes, but we are not insane. Those who created it are. I didn't use any chemicals regularly, and for the most part stick with herbs and antibiotics, but those items I listed helped tremendously. Especially the window cleaner and antibacterial gel. Will I get sicker because of these chemicals I used? I look at it this way. If there are nano particles, machines, silicone, or whatever, which is worse if used in moderation? I am doing very well and so I try and detox from all of this. No cure, but much,, much better.  NOT ACCEPTABLE - BREAKS DOWN THE MACHINE. Acetaldehyde, 100% Acetates Acetic Acid, Glacial, 100% Acetic Anhydride Acetone Acetonitrile Acetophenone Acrylic Paints Alcohol, Allyl Alcohol, Amyl Alcohol, Benzyl Alcohol, Ethyl, 100% Alcohol, Ethyl, 50% Alcohol, Isopropyl, 100% Alcohol, Methyl, 10% Alcohol, Methyl, 100% Alcohol, Methyl, 50% Alcohol, N-Butyl Amyl Acetate Aniline Aviation Fuel (100 Octane) Benzaldehyde Benzene Benzoic Aldehyde Brake Fluid Bromine Gas Butanol Butraldehyde Butyl Acetyl Ricinoleate Butyl Stearate Carbolic Acid Carbon Disultide Cellulose Paints Chlorinated Hydrocarbons Chlorinated Solvents Chlorine Gas Chlorophenol Chromic Acid, 40% Cloves Cosmoline Removers Cresol Cyclohexane Cyclohexanone Cyclohexene Detergent Solution Diacetone Alcohol Diamyl Phthalate Dibutyl Sebacate Diethyl Ether Dimethyl Formamide Dioctyl Sebacate Dioxane Ether Ethyl Acetate Ethyl Alcohol, Concentrated Ethyl Bromide Ethyl Butyrate Ethylene Bromide Ethylene Dibromide Ethylene Oxide (Moist) Glass Cleaners Glycol Hydrogen Peroxide, 28% Hydrogen Peroxide, 3% Iron Perchloride Isoctane Isopropyl Alcohol Lacquer Thinner Lactic Acid Butyl Ester Mercury Chloride Meta-Cresol Methanol, 15% Methanol, Concentrated Methyl Benzoate Methyl Chloride Methyl Cycohexanol Methyl Ethyl Ketone Methyl Naphthalene Methyl Salicyclate Methylamine Methylene Dichloride Mineral Oil Motor Fuel Mixture, with Benzene Nail Polish Naphtha N-Butyric Acid, 100% Nitric Acid, 40% Nitric Acid, 70% Nitrobenzene N-Octane Paint Removers Paint Thinner Perchlorethylene Petroleum Ether (100-120C) Phenois Phenol, Aqueous, 5% Phosphoric Acid, 95% @ 20C Phthalates Pyridine Sodium Carbonate, 2% Sodium Carbonate, 20% Sodium Phosphate Sulfur Dioxide, Liquid Sulfuric Acid, 98% Sulfurous Acid, Concentrated Tincture of Iodine, 5% Toluene Transformer Oil Trichloraethane Trichloroacetic Acid Trichloroethylene Turpentine Unleaded Gasoline Vegetable Oil Xylene ACCEPTABLE (PROTECTS THE MACHINES) 2-Ethylhexyl Sebacate Acetic Acid 5% Ammonia-based Cleaners Ammonia Gas Ammonium Hydroxide, 28% Ammonium Nitrate Ammonium Phosphate Aniseed, Bay Leaves, Nutmeg Anti-freeze Beer Bleaching Power Paste Bleaching Powder Solution, 2% Calcium Hypochlorite Car Wash Detergent Carbon Dioxide Gas Carbon Monoxide Gas Caustic Potash Chlorine Based Cleaners Chlorine, Aqueous, 2% Citric Acid, 10% Coffee Cooking Oil Cottonseed Oil Diethylene Glycol Epoxy Adhesives Ethyl Alcohol, 15% Ethylene Glycol E Ethylene Oxide (Dry) Ferric Chloride, Aqueous, 10% Formaldehyde, Aqueous, 40% Fruit Juice Glycerol Heptane Hexane Hydrochloric Acid, 38% Kerosene Lactic Acid Metal Carbonates Metal Chlorides Metal Sulfates Methane Gas Milk Milk, Chocolate Motor Fuel Mixture, without Benzene Motor Oil Natural Gas Nitric Acid, 10% Nitrogen Dioxide Gas Nitrogen Monoxide Gas Olefric Carbolic Acids Oleic Acid Olive Oil Oxalic Acid, 100% Oxygen Gas Ozone Gas Paraffi n, Medicinal Pepper, Cinnamon, Onions Phosphoric Acid, 10% @ 20C Photographic Baths Polishing Compounds Potassium Chlorate Potassium Cyanide Potassium Dichromate, 10% Potassium Hydroxide @ 20C Potassium Permanganate Potassium Sulfi te Power Steering Fluid Propylene Pure-oil Paints Silicone Oil Silver Nitrate Soap Suds Soda Sodium Chloride, 10% Sodium Cyanide Sodium Fluoride Sodium Hydroxide, 60% Sodium Nitrate Sodium Thiosulphate, 40% Stearic Acid Sulfur Dioxide, Dry Gas Sulfuric Acid, 30% Sulfurous Acid, 5% Tararic Acid, 50% Transmission Fluid Tricresyl Phosphate Triethyl Amine Vinegar Water, Mineral Water Wax Polish White Spirit Whitewash Wine |
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