MDR: Nonjudgmental, Unconditional Support..Lets bring it back please

[ChatCat]

This is what people see when they are search for support from the internet:

Morgellons-Disease-Research
Nonjudgmental, Unconditional Emotional Support forum for our members! Does not matter if its about Morgellons or just daily life events. ...
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What people experience when they get here:
(By ChewToy)
Quote:
" a site dedicated to Help and Support Morgellons sufferers around the world..
welcome all"

THAT is the message on the pennant
that is fluttering from the good ship MDR mainmast.
THAT is the focus.
THAT is the reason for its existence.
THAT is what should be supported, and defended with whatever tools
are necessary.

It is a worthy mission statement. A worthy cause.

Now..how to obtain that goal..and not lose it to
the "dark forces and negative energies" that seem to seep into all interweb forums/websites.

It's not enough to proclaim lofty goals..there must be a way to hold fast
to those goals..

...a few thoughts along those lines..

Don't think of it as a rant...think of it more as the
Boris Maskirovka Manifesto.

______________

Another day passes...another hour wasted by wading through the shrill
screeches coming from the "M" help forum.
Another day in which I don't post anything in this place; despite the
fact that I am in a "winner take all" struggle with the "M beasties"..
and not doing at all well at the moment. I really do not care to be
volunteering information about my fight that will undoubtedly thrown
back in my face by the forum trolls that infest this place.

I am left with the conclusion that this
forum is totally out of control. There are a
few "forum terrorists" that are keeping themselves
amused, week after week..cultivating endless "conspiracy
theories" about:
who among those providing therapy for "M"
are frauds;
which therapies are "fake";
who is shilling for "someone";
who is actually "someone else";
and who is not really
getting well..but only making false claims of better health for some
self serving reason.

{gotta' love the irony of persons who for years have
been called "delusional" about being sick"..now being tagged as
"delusional about getting well"...since they are using a therapy not approved by the "forum terrorists"}

The "ft's" [forum terrorists] never have anything
helpful, supportive, or constructive,.. to post.
They do not post about THEIR battle with the "M"..THEIR gains or losses.
No, it's always about tossing "conspiracy hand grenades"
into the "help" forums..and then machine gunning the survivors using personal attacks.

Nothing is done about these saboteurs.
Despite some of them being bold enough to state
that even if banned they will simply come back and
make more trouble..openly defying whatever moderation
there might be...[which apparently is not much.]
Locking one thread only to have the same troublemakers start another..is not a solution.
I find it utterly counterproductive..and in opposition to the
stated goals of this site, to LOCK useful threads because of the
sabotage activity of a few "career troublemakers".


It is my conclusion..[for what it's worth]
that the people running this site need to make a command decision about what their goal
is in maintaining the "help" forums:

will it be to continue
providing a place for injured, hurting people to share information and
find a path to wellness..?

or:
provide a free fire zone for every sociopath with a conspiracy
theory..or a personal agenda to pick off those innocent newcomers that
are lured here by the claims of "dedicated to help and
support".

This site has become distressingly like a watering hole in
a parched place..
a watering hole infested with crocodiles..and patrolled
by hyenas. If you post..there is no escape.

I do not envy the task of the moderators..but
as it stands..there seems to be very little point to keeping this
"help" forum open. The people most in need and looking for help are
being driven off by insane or diabolical people.
[
I suspect that the time for "quiet diplomacy and tactful corrections" has passed in regard
to dealing with the mutiny minded members of the crew.
It may take "ForumGestapo tactics" to restore order.

At this point, I would welcome the sight of a few burly, SMG toting guards patrolling
the halls.

"until we see civility returned".


"chewtoyofthegods"

------------------------------------------------------------------

The solution when implemented:
(By Franky Forum Admin.)
I am personally now very sick of was going on with the forum. All this fighting it going to stop ASAP. I hate to sound like a bully myself, but this is all a waste of people’s time, energy and my site’s resources.

I also hate how Carla is being called all kinds of names as well as other members here. Carla has been such a help to the site over the years. Like I said before, I don’t care if the site ends up with just 5 good supportive members, I would keep the site up for them.

I am getting so many emails asking that if the site could be like it was before. Anybody from now on, who feels they are being bullied unfairly please report it to me or Carla instead of getting into a verbal fight on the boards. I will take care of it for you.

As of now, anybody who starts combative posting will be banned for an amount of time, and then banned for good. Also there seems to be people who enjoy bad mouthing the forum, well guess what, don’t like it, Cool then LEAVE.

Lastly all the overt promoting of Dr. Hildegarde Staninger has to end now as well. Whether you believe in the protocol or not is besides the point here. It being pushed way too much and this is not her sales forum or a sales forum in general.

I will review the situation and see how it applies to MDR, but for now no more talk about her pro or con.

[cynical]

Interesting name used here

Boris Maskirovka

But it's not the persons real name Very interesting I must say!

Originally Posted by ChatCat

This is what people see when they are search for support from the internet:

Morgellons-Disease-Research
Nonjudgmental, Unconditional Emotional Support forum for our members! Does not matter if its about Morgellons or just daily life events. ...
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What people experience when they get here:
(By ChewToy)
Quote:
" a site dedicated to Help and Support Morgellons sufferers around the world..
welcome all"

THAT is the message on the pennant
that is fluttering from the good ship MDR mainmast.
THAT is the focus.
THAT is the reason for its existence.
THAT is what should be supported, and defended with whatever tools
are necessary.

It is a worthy mission statement. A worthy cause.

Now..how to obtain that goal..and not lose it to
the "dark forces and negative energies" that seem to seep into all interweb forums/websites.

It's not enough to proclaim lofty goals..there must be a way to hold fast
to those goals..

...a few thoughts along those lines..

Don't think of it as a rant...think of it more as the
Boris Maskirovka Manifesto.

______________

Another day passes...another hour wasted by wading through the shrill
screeches coming from the "M" help forum.
Another day in which I don't post anything in this place; despite the
fact that I am in a "winner take all" struggle with the "M beasties"..
and not doing at all well at the moment. I really do not care to be
volunteering information about my fight that will undoubtedly thrown
back in my face by the forum trolls that infest this place.

I am left with the conclusion that this
forum is totally out of control. There are a
few "forum terrorists" that are keeping themselves
amused, week after week..cultivating endless "conspiracy
theories" about:
who among those providing therapy for "M"
are frauds;
which therapies are "fake";
who is shilling for "someone";
who is actually "someone else";
and who is not really
getting well..but only making false claims of better health for some
self serving reason.

{gotta' love the irony of persons who for years have
been called "delusional" about being sick"..now being tagged as
"delusional about getting well"...since they are using a therapy not approved by the "forum terrorists"}

The "ft's" [forum terrorists] never have anything
helpful, supportive, or constructive,.. to post.
They do not post about THEIR battle with the "M"..THEIR gains or losses.
No, it's always about tossing "conspiracy hand grenades"
into the "help" forums..and then machine gunning the survivors using personal attacks.

Nothing is done about these saboteurs.
Despite some of them being bold enough to state
that even if banned they will simply come back and
make more trouble..openly defying whatever moderation
there might be...[which apparently is not much.]
Locking one thread only to have the same troublemakers start another..is not a solution.
I find it utterly counterproductive..and in opposition to the
stated goals of this site, to LOCK useful threads because of the
sabotage activity of a few "career troublemakers".


It is my conclusion..[for what it's worth]
that the people running this site need to make a command decision about what their goal
is in maintaining the "help" forums:

will it be to continue
providing a place for injured, hurting people to share information and
find a path to wellness..?

or:
provide a free fire zone for every sociopath with a conspiracy
theory..or a personal agenda to pick off those innocent newcomers that
are lured here by the claims of "dedicated to help and
support".

This site has become distressingly like a watering hole in
a parched place..
a watering hole infested with crocodiles..and patrolled
by hyenas. If you post..there is no escape.

I do not envy the task of the moderators..but
as it stands..there seems to be very little point to keeping this
"help" forum open. The people most in need and looking for help are
being driven off by insane or diabolical people.
[
I suspect that the time for "quiet diplomacy and tactful corrections" has passed in regard
to dealing with the mutiny minded members of the crew.
It may take "ForumGestapo tactics" to restore order.

At this point, I would welcome the sight of a few burly, SMG toting guards patrolling
the halls.

"until we see civility returned".


"chewtoyofthegods"

------------------------------------------------------------------

The solution when implemented:
(By Franky Forum Admin.)
I am personally now very sick of was going on with the forum. All this fighting it going to stop ASAP. I hate to sound like a bully myself, but this is all a waste of people’s time, energy and my site’s resources.

I also hate how Carla is being called all kinds of names as well as other members here. Carla has been such a help to the site over the years. Like I said before, I don’t care if the site ends up with just 5 good supportive members, I would keep the site up for them.

I am getting so many emails asking that if the site could be like it was before. Anybody from now on, who feels they are being bullied unfairly please report it to me or Carla instead of getting into a verbal fight on the boards. I will take care of it for you.

As of now, anybody who starts combative posting will be banned for an amount of time, and then banned for good. Also there seems to be people who enjoy bad mouthing the forum, well guess what, don’t like it, Cool then LEAVE.

Lastly all the overt promoting of Dr. Hildegarde Staninger has to end now as well. Whether you believe in the protocol or not is besides the point here. It being pushed way too much and this is not her sales forum or a sales forum in general.

I will review the situation and see how it applies to MDR, but for now no more talk about her pro or con.

[janedoe]

Originally Posted by ChatCat

This is what people see when they are search for support from the internet:

Morgellons-Disease-Research
Nonjudgmental, Unconditional Emotional Support forum for our members! Does not matter if its about Morgellons or just daily life events. ...
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What people experience when they get here:
(By ChewToy)
Quote:
" a site dedicated to Help and Support Morgellons sufferers around the world..
welcome all"

THAT is the message on the pennant
that is fluttering from the good ship MDR mainmast.
THAT is the focus.
THAT is the reason for its existence.
THAT is what should be supported, and defended with whatever tools
are necessary.

It is a worthy mission statement. A worthy cause.

Now..how to obtain that goal..and not lose it to
the "dark forces and negative energies" that seem to seep into all interweb forums/websites.

It's not enough to proclaim lofty goals..there must be a way to hold fast
to those goals..

...a few thoughts along those lines..

Don't think of it as a rant...think of it more as the
Boris Maskirovka Manifesto.

______________

Another day passes...another hour wasted by wading through the shrill
screeches coming from the "M" help forum.
Another day in which I don't post anything in this place; despite the
fact that I am in a "winner take all" struggle with the "M beasties"..
and not doing at all well at the moment. I really do not care to be
volunteering information about my fight that will undoubtedly thrown
back in my face by the forum trolls that infest this place.

I am left with the conclusion that this
forum is totally out of control. There are a
few "forum terrorists" that are keeping themselves
amused, week after week..cultivating endless "conspiracy
theories" about:
who among those providing therapy for "M"
are frauds;
which therapies are "fake";
who is shilling for "someone";
who is actually "someone else";
and who is not really
getting well..but only making false claims of better health for some
self serving reason.

{gotta' love the irony of persons who for years have
been called "delusional" about being sick"..now being tagged as
"delusional about getting well"...since they are using a therapy not approved by the "forum terrorists"}

The "ft's" [forum terrorists] never have anything
helpful, supportive, or constructive,.. to post.
They do not post about THEIR battle with the "M"..THEIR gains or losses.
No, it's always about tossing "conspiracy hand grenades"
into the "help" forums..and then machine gunning the survivors using personal attacks.

Nothing is done about these saboteurs.
Despite some of them being bold enough to state
that even if banned they will simply come back and
make more trouble..openly defying whatever moderation
there might be...[which apparently is not much.]
Locking one thread only to have the same troublemakers start another..is not a solution.
I find it utterly counterproductive..and in opposition to the
stated goals of this site, to LOCK useful threads because of the
sabotage activity of a few "career troublemakers".


It is my conclusion..[for what it's worth]
that the people running this site need to make a command decision about what their goal
is in maintaining the "help" forums:

will it be to continue
providing a place for injured, hurting people to share information and
find a path to wellness..?

or:
provide a free fire zone for every sociopath with a conspiracy
theory..or a personal agenda to pick off those innocent newcomers that
are lured here by the claims of "dedicated to help and
support".

This site has become distressingly like a watering hole in
a parched place..
a watering hole infested with crocodiles..and patrolled
by hyenas. If you post..there is no escape.

I do not envy the task of the moderators..but
as it stands..there seems to be very little point to keeping this
"help" forum open. The people most in need and looking for help are
being driven off by insane or diabolical people.
[
I suspect that the time for "quiet diplomacy and tactful corrections" has passed in regard
to dealing with the mutiny minded members of the crew.
It may take "ForumGestapo tactics" to restore order.

At this point, I would welcome the sight of a few burly, SMG toting guards patrolling
the halls.

"until we see civility returned".


"chewtoyofthegods"

------------------------------------------------------------------

The solution when implemented:
(By Franky Forum Admin.)
I am personally now very sick of was going on with the forum. All this fighting it going to stop ASAP. I hate to sound like a bully myself, but this is all a waste of people’s time, energy and my site’s resources.

I also hate how Carla is being called all kinds of names as well as other members here. Carla has been such a help to the site over the years. Like I said before, I don’t care if the site ends up with just 5 good supportive members, I would keep the site up for them.

I am getting so many emails asking that if the site could be like it was before. Anybody from now on, who feels they are being bullied unfairly please report it to me or Carla instead of getting into a verbal fight on the boards. I will take care of it for you.

As of now, anybody who starts combative posting will be banned for an amount of time, and then banned for good. Also there seems to be people who enjoy bad mouthing the forum, well guess what, don’t like it, Cool then LEAVE.

Lastly all the overt promoting of Dr. Hildegarde Staninger has to end now as well. Whether you believe in the protocol or not is besides the point here. It being pushed way too much and this is not her sales forum or a sales forum in general.

I will review the situation and see how it applies to MDR, but for now no more talk about her pro or con.

maybe im not in this forum as often as you spend time here, but your talking as if people here are saying to you that theyre gonna kill you and your babies or something, and i havent noticed anything like that, so sometimes people get 'on their high horses' and think they are Gods of the forum, others think 'that they have a cure and its for sure and anybody who says different can go die all alone because nobody can ever ever be as smart as me the great!! ' but i always just took peoples moodswings as being humans, most in pain,scared,tired of it, cant talk to a friend in real life so they vent here.everybody has good and bad days, anybody that expects perfection in people is an idiot.but thats what makes the internet great, 20 years ago only certain people could ever even get access to what is common knowlegde for all us now, and now, every one of us, no matter rich or poor, black white,male/female, we all can get the SAME info..just as easy as the next guy. people always have differen opinions, were supposed to!! what makes a person a good person or not, is how they handle themselfs under stress when they think they are being questioned and distrusted.its not just a social way to act, but its also a big huge look into that persons phyche.
basicly, if you are a person that needs to be the big cheese, most popular,smartest in the room, but get angry when someone doesnt recognize your greatness,then maybe a forum where people say whats on their minds is a bad idea for you, anybody with a God complex cant deal with anybody not constanlty telling them how great they are...well, they need to get them a fan forum someplace and have a blast! but most people that have low self esteem/image of themselfs, falls all apart if it looks like they are slipping down the ranks.its stupid of course, since aint nobody gonna give them a rank,who cares?
but really, theres no reason to feel like there are 'terrorists' on this forum, that kind of thinking isnt logical, its extreme, and dramatic. example..you goto the store, see someone you know 3 ilses away. you say hi, they glance your direction, keep walking. now, you feel slighted,ignored, but its certainly not to the level where you go home in tears because 'this woman that you known for years, youve done everything for her and how could she be so outwardly cruel to laugh in your face in front of the whole store!!'' i hate her, ill never ever call her again!! that *****!! the nerve..
when what really happened was she was listnin to her ipod and didnt hear or see you..
i know im long winded, but am i making sense? when people blow things way out of proportion, then other people simply wont take them seriously. keep things in prespective and let things go, its no big deal when compared to not having any food in days because you have no home,food,firends,family,money ya know, its a just a forum, nobody stole your baby and torchard it, ok? stop being all upset and offended simply because the whole wide world didnt agree with you... its 2010..far worse things going on than your popularity issues

[lamb]

No, Jane. You are not making sense. This isn't Junior High, we are people in pain and mental agony trying to help one another.
What is it that you don't get?

[janedoe]

Originally Posted by lamb

No, Jane. You are not making sense. This isn't Junior High, we are people in pain and mental agony trying to help one another.
What is it that you don't get?

then why attack me? im in pain and mental agony, just like others, i WANT THIS SOLVED, I WANT THIS GONE!!IM LOOKING FOR ANSWERS, NOTPOPULARITY! my health is going downhill very fast, i aint got time to coddle someones ego if what they have to say wont work for me...what dont YOU GET?
im 42, and i never acted this way in school, if you guys did, that MAY EXPLAIN A LOT!

[lamb]

I am not attacking anyone but I do abhor the manner in which Chat Cat has been treated. End of Story.

[Baraka Obam]

Janedoe, your HELP here is nothing more than info you would get from a school nurse, your abrasive manner is no more than a teenagers outbursts. I would not suggest you to actually find somthing you belive in and follow it presenting fact that tie the riddle together, as you may start and stop with the common cold, posting 40 times a day untill hell freezes over.

I usually will not even post after you post to me anymore because all it comes to is school girl ramblings and arrogent mindless persacution of anyone that does not agree with the lonely arrogant tough.

If you will not sit down and read, YES READ little girl, do not try to dispence anything to anyone here. The masses here are, should I say on a higher level.

I would not speak to you in this manner but all you look for is people to agree with you or people to fight with, you need to get back on your drugs and see a mental health doctor.

If your health is failing you need to get back to the doctor that would have you cured with pills.

The simple fact that so many here have found NO RELIEF from doctors and drugs does not faze you from saying things like go to the doctor, now how can you say you are in bad health when the doctor gave you a shot that made you all better. Please explain how your doctor is better than the 50 some I have seen, the thousands that the people here have seen.

I am sure with the luck of the irish you picked the only doctor with pills and needles, with antibiotics and steroids.

this is a waste of words I know as you will only come back with some childish rant about how tough you are, how you don't take any guff, and all kinds of such pea mush. You are nothing but a angry little bridge troll.

I hear the LYME DISEASE forums are buying a new bridge, Katinka was asking about you, yes she was, she wants you over at the Lyme site.

[janedoe]

Originally Posted by lamb

I am not attacking anyone but I do abhor the manner in which Chat Cat has been treated. End of Story.

end of story.. ok, im not gonna let my mind go off on that one, i AM losing my mind, im slipping into OCD real bad and im just now realizing it. it could be menopause coming on, im almost 43.. either way, dont keep stupid conversations going on for day after day and then tell me 'end of story'...
ya know, its so stupid, when somebody mental state is 'off' its a real bad time to be acting like a jerk, people snap at the strangest things. the funny part? they ALWAYS tell everyone exactly what they are going to do before they go and kill half dozen people.. then everytime, afterwards, 'oh, we didnt see that coming at all!! how can we keep these things from happning again? if only we had some kind of warning!!'
why do i say this? well, you tell me..am i crazy? probably...

[Baraka Obam]

Originally Posted by janedoe

end of story.. ok, im not gonna let my mind go off on that one, i AM losing my mind, im slipping into OCD real bad and im just now realizing it. it could be menopause coming on, im almost 43.. either way, dont keep stupid conversations going on for day after day and then tell me 'end of story'...
ya know, its so stupid, when somebody mental state is 'off' its a real bad time to be acting like a jerk, people snap at the strangest things. the funny part? they ALWAYS tell everyone exactly what they are going to do before they go and kill half dozen people.. then everytime, afterwards, 'oh, we didnt see that coming at all!! how can we keep these things from happning again? if only we had some kind of warning!!'
why do i say this? well, you tell me..am i crazy? probably...

The polititians in Washington told me they don't like you!!The tax man said somthing about your hair color!!! You had better get on a bus and go confront them, right away, ignore my previous post, LOL !!! You are a barrel of monkeys! !

[janedoe]

Originally Posted by Baraka Obam

The polititians in Washington told me they don't like you!!The tax man said somthing about your hair color!!! You had better get on a bus and go confront them, right away, ignore my previous post, LOL !!! You are a barrel of monkeys! !

got that right...
im having my littlr pity party..on a support form...ok...
look, i told you my minds not RIGHT RIGHT NOW.. WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT FROM MY ***? ME GONE? fine...later losers.