Bats are dying

[Cindi]

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan2...-01-31-094.asp

Fungus is involved. hmmm...........

[Jo]

Good find Cindi,

Poor little things. I dont think the report said which kind of bats they were?

The report said that that didnt know if the fungi causing the white nose was the cause of death.

I think that Cryptostrongylus originated from fruit bats in South East Asia. I know that there are nematodes in the same family (trichostrongyle) that use fungi. Just a thought.

cheers

Jo xxx

[Cindi]

Hi Jo,

You are right they do not know if that is the cause or just an added outcome due to their lowered immune system. Much like us though. We have things that compounded do to other infections. I myself am going on a parasite cleanse to help. I think fungus is involved in this for me by things I have examined and parasites could be making it even harder to fight. I am not sure which type of bat either. I will have to dig a little deeper on this one. I would also like to know what type of fungus they have. Fungus is also affecting frogs it would be interesting to see if there is any connection considering they both eat insects. . The fungus among us is taking over. They did mention the possibility of insecticides maybe being associated with it. I sure hope it is not one of the so called safe bio control agents because that would be terrible. I think they rushed to market on some of this stuff.


Cindi

[Jo]

Yes, worth a dig. I wonder about your insect idea - good one - if its the same fungi affecting a number of species.

Cindi, you could be our zoonosis researcher!!

xxx

[Cindi]

Well there are insects known to be infected with nematodes. I am not sure about the one in particular that you mentioned but here is an interesting article. I will have to look at that post more carefully.

If already covered before sorry.
This particular one has a luminescent bacteria that it depends on.

http://www.inclinehs.org/smb/Xenorhabdus.htm


Cindi

[Jo]

Cindi - what can I say about your post?? ??

It provides theories to some of the thoughts I'd had yesterday about - why do organisms glow or why would they be engineered to glow?

I need to look at it further, as there's so much in there.

Thanks

Jo xxx

[Cindi]

Here Jo here the type of fungus is mentioned and we have all heard of this one before. Fusarium normally known to infect plants. hmmm.................... They believe that the fungus invades due to the weakened state from some other factor.

http://toxlaw.com/chatboards/toxboar....12.39.34.html


Still digging....


Cindi

[Jo]

Thanks Cindi,

Interesting - from that article, other species of bats are dying too.

This bits key:
"Pathologists that have examined the carcasses recovered from the New York sites do not believe the fungus is the main culprit. One guess at this time is that the fungus invades after the bats are stressed by some other factor."

I've looked at 'fusarium' in previous posts on the forum. It came up with 3 main threads:

The role of Fusarium oxysporum, also referred to as Agent Green
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusarium_oxysporum
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic890.htm
http://www.answers.com/topic/mycotoxin?cat=health
http://www.mycotoxin-prevention.com/PressRelease.htm

Also, related to atmospheric polymers:
"Polymer chemist Dr. R. Michael Castle has studied atmospheric polymers for years. He has found that some of them contain bioactive materials, which can cause "serious skin lesions and diseases when absorbed into the skin."46 He has identified microscopic polymers comprised of genetically-engineered fungal forms mutated with viruses. He says that trillions of fusarium (fungus)/virus mutated spores, which secrete a powerful mico-toxin, are part of the air we breathe."
Aerosol and Electromagnetic Weapons In The Age Of Nuclear War By Amy Worthington
http://www.globalresearch.ca

And Al's thought's on the role of fusaric acid, which I think was related to research by Van Eeden about the effects of fusaric acid on the skin and in the body (needs verifying).

ANYWAY!!! The interesting, but sad fact is that the bats are dying of something. Is it mutated fusarium or another organism..? I wonder what they'll find.

Jo xxx

[Kritters]

Cindi & Jo,

"He has identified microscopic polymers comprised of genetically-engineered fungal forms mutated with viruses. He says that trillions of fusarium (fungus)/virus mutated spores, which secrete a powerful mico-toxin, are part of the air we breathe."

I just got a very eerie feeling that this is exactly what it is.

could that pathogen with with the fungus mutated be possibly Clamydia-pneumoniae? Or that Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni? Although Cpn is classified as a bacteria, not a virus, my guess is that they don't know if it's a virus or bacteria mutating with the fungus.

Cpn is contagious through breathing the airborne spores as is what they are describing.

xoxo
Kritts

[Jo]

Yes, my brain twin I agree.

What I do know is that my Harvey associated specialist looked out for the following in my blood:

1) C pumoni
2) C. pneumoniae (elementary bodies)
3) Borrelia 'like' spirocheatal forms
4) Bacillus licheniformis - a soil bacteria, also found in the feathers of birds

I tested +ve for 1 & 3.

My infection with elementary bodies of Cpn was no longer observed.

From this, Bacillus licheniiformis is worth some investigation too, I believe.

Joey xxx