Hydrogen peroxide therapy

[hurtin1]

I bought a book entitled hydrogen peroxide therapy,,and in it it has topics such as :Bio-oxidative formulas you can make at home.."Hydrogen peroxide&cancer-the scientific evedence",,,,,"The historical use of ozone in the treatment of aids",,,and "New immune rebuilding diet plan"

In one section it has a section entitled "The intravenous use of hydrogen peroxide"
DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!
It takes a precise mixture,,of "food grade reagent h2o2",,"D5w solution"(which you cannot just buy),,and magnesium chloride solution(to prevent vein hardening)
Saline is no longer used ,,due to vein hardening..
This is used as a drip,,,to safely introduce h2o2 directly into the blood

I am wondering if anyone has looked into this as a more aggresive aproach to treating this...
A total body saturation/ attack on this,,,makes much more sense to me,,than hit and miss aproach,,giving it time to re-establish itself..

Could this be used in conjuction with other as needed to kill all it ALL at once??

[Kritters]

Hey Hurtin~

I had a few of those drips last year at the first Integrative practice I went to. Could be part of the reason I am now much better. I will begin a weekly series of Vitamin C drips soon, which reportedly accomplishes the same thing, ordered by my new naturopathic MD. Just to be sure, maybe I'll ask for them to do both alternately.

Kritts

[Baraka Obam]

I had about 10 of these and they helped quite a bit at the time. I do not think if your kidneys are having problems you should do it though. If you are doing intravenious vitamins and minerals Kritters do not do them on the same day as the hydrogen peroxide it may oxidise some of what your paying for. Do the hydrogen first then the antioxidents the next day. In fact the night of the day doing the hydogen drip, take all the antioxidents you can to carry away the garbage left in your blood.

[Kritters]

Excellent points BOFL, thank you!!! I'm going to do the drips on alternate weeks. I have to drive an hour for them. He ordered something else besides the vit C I never heard of...when I find out I'll post it.

[Baraka Obam]

They also try to push a natural anti inflamatory as if the swelling or iratation subsides than the fluids, blood, and whatever else the body strangle held away will be able to reach it. Its too bad he don't have a hyperbaric chamber!!!You may want to look at the difference of what he charges you for these treatments and think of the hyperbaric chamber instead. I feel that has the longest acting results. You may have to get a doctor to ok your treatment for lets say a UNHEALING WOUND.

[Sadsack]

Most people don't realize this, but your body actually produces hydrogen peroxide as a first line of defense against foreign invaders.

And the production of H202 is actually boosted by Vitamin C, which is what I think you were alluding to, Kritts:

"...Vitamin C drips soon, which reportedly accomplishes the same thing..."

And...:

Vancouver naturopath offering intravenous vitamin C

According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences: High doses of vitamin C may fight cancer



Intravenous vitamin C



As many of you know, I am a huge proponent of using high doses of intravenous vitamin C in certain cancer patients, patients with chronic infections and immune deficiencies, and also on a semi-routine basis for the prevention of cancer. Intravenous vitamin C is one of the few “alternative” and complementary treatments that the BC Cancer Agency has labeled as investigational, as opposed to outright condemnation. Intravenous vitamin C is one of the more widely available treatments in Vancouver and Richmond, done by many naturopathic doctors. This naturopathic intravenous treatment has begun to receive headlines again in a positive light because of information from the prestigious Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. In reality, there has always been plenty of information available to both clinicians and patients that sheds light on how high IV doses of vitamin C can fight cancer and prevent new tumors from forming; most conventional physicians are not aware of these or state incorrectly that “vitamin C has already been studied and found to not be effective”.



High doses of vitamin C given intravenously (as opposed to the 10 grams given orally and studied in the past at the Mayo Clinic) have the interesting effect of being an oxidative treatment. We all know that vitamin C taken orally acts as an antioxidant, but an important point is that very high doses given intravenously, usually between 25-100 grams, has a pro-oxidative effect. The mechanism involves the generation of hydrogen peroxide within the tissues that accumulate the vitamin C. One postulated mechanism of this formation involves vitamin C displacing iron from its carrier protein, with the subsequent intracellular generation of hydrogen peroxide. This is selectively toxic to cancer cells because they lack an enzyme that other healthy cells have in abundance: catalase.



Catalase is one of the fastest enzymes ever studied. Its’ job is to do the following conversion:



2H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) --> 2 H2O (water) + O2 (oxygen)



The products water and oxygen are of course harmless. If this reaction does not occur efficiently due to lack of the catalase enzyme (ie in cancer cells) the hydrogen peroxide can react with the displaced iron and create an excess of free radicals. These free radicals then stimulate apotosis or cell suicide in the cancer cells. This basic process is also the reason I will routinely treat once or twice a month some immunodeficient patients and also pro-active patients seeking prevention against cancer.



The IV treatments are generally painless, and completely non-toxic. They are a slow IV drip over 45 minutes to 2-3 hours depending on the dose given.



In some of the articles, the study’s author makes a clear distinction from the generation of tissue peroxide and giving hydrogen peroxide intravenously. This is an important distinction as the mechanism of action is different. Intravenous dilute hydrogen peroxide is also an effective adjunctive cancer treatment, but the peroxide is reacted with immediately in the blood by catalase. Thus, no peroxide gets to kill cancer cells (with the possible exception of some blood borne cancers). Instead, the effect is a very strong immune system stimulation, with the generation of cytokines (chemicals that act on the immune system) that provoke a redirection of resources to focus on the killing of cancer cells. It is the same mechanism that applies to ozone therapy. In these oxidative therapies, the generation of the chemicals interferon gamma and tumor necrosis factor alpha. With vitamin C, it seems that we can get similar releases of chemicals, but only if the immune cells are already stimulated. Thus if the immune cells haven’t recognized the cancer, then intravenous vitamin C probably won’t have an immune effect but would only have the effect of generating hydrogen peroxide at the tumor (which is still very useful).



Perhaps the best thing about naturopathic medicine is the fact that it is usually completely non-toxic. While natural substances such as plants can definitely have toxicities, they are generally less than those of drugs. When we work with stimulating the body’s own defenses, and use molecules and chemicals that are already present in the body, we have even less toxicity. Intravenous vitamin C falls into this category.





Dosages used in intravenous vitamin C



In my Vancouver and Richmond patients, many have reported that they have received intravenous vitamin C at other clinics, usually in dosages ranging from 12.5 to 50 grams. In cases of adjunctive support in cancer, 50 grams is definitely at the lower end of optimal. We know that the blood concentration necessary to have a tumor killing effect is 400 mg/dl, and to achieve this in most patients intravenous vitamin C dosages need to be around 50-150 grams, depending on the patient.



Frequency of use



Most of the studies on vitamin C are "test tube"studies, but they are markedly positive, when studied alone against cancer and also when studied with a variety of chemotherapy agents. It is always best to check with your naturopathic doctor regarding the use of vitamin C during chemotherapy. Clinician experience usually sets the frequency of intravenous vitamin C at 2-3 times per week to start, and then reduction in frequency. In some protocols, it can be alternated with treatments of sodium bicarbonate as part of an alkalinization protocol. This protocol is more intensive and involves treatment 5 days a week for 3 weeks, where intravenous sodium bicarbonate is done 5 days a week for 2 weeks, and then vitamin C is used.



Costs involved



25 grams of intravenous vitamin C cost $110. Each subsequent 25 grams adds a cost of $20. The initial consultation with Dr Chan or Dr Ward is $138.



Side effects during intravenous vitamin C

- nausea (prevented by eating before and during treatment)
- thirst
- frequent urination
- very rare: risks of vein irritation, volume overload

Somehow I couldn't copy the last paragraph, which in interesting. He talks about ultraviolet blood irradiation.

SS

[Sadsack]

PS - I've been taking Opaline Dry Oxy Caps for 21 months - the oxygen is released upon digestion and it circulates in the blood, oxygenating tissues.

SS

[hurtin1]

Here is an ultra violet/h202

Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) and Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation Therapies

Just U-V

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/uv_light/uv_light3.htm

newhealthinsight.com - Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation (UVBI)


I had thought of this a while back,,using a blood pump(just like dialysis),, tubing and a blacklight...thats really all there is to it..