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Old August 11th, 2009, 12:51 AM
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Just read this article about how effective SUGAR is in treating deep wounds. I knew about honey, but assumed, no, had read one major reason is the hydrogen peroxide (although not the only property) and am really surprised that sugar is also used and has been for centuries!!! Anyone want to check it out on a lesion (non-bleeding)? How about directly applying honey (raw)?

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Old August 11th, 2009, 06:25 AM
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That is an amazing story Kritts.
I will try the honey next time I get a Lesion.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 10:09 AM
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Just a couple quotes from earlier posts which highlight some of the research being conducted on medical grade honey:

“There are a number of in-vitro studies that have shown the effectiveness of medical honeys on antibiotic resistant organisms, such as MRSA and P aeruginosa.[5,11]”

“Furthermore, medihoney consists of two different types of honey: one which forms a comparatively large amount of hydrogen peroxide, and another known as 'lepto-spermum honey'. Leptospermum is a species of tree which occurs in New Zealand and Australia. Honey from these trees has a particularly strong anti-bacterial effect, even in a 10% dilution. 'It is not yet known exactly why this is,' Dr. Arne Simon says. 'Probably it is a mix of phenol-type substances which come from the plant and make life particularly difficult for the bacteria in the wound."

This post below was from a recent thread started by Spotted Dog. I wonder how the honey is working for her--Carla and Paddel discuss their experiences in a link below. I no longer have lesions so I cannot test this on anything. The antiviral treatment is working for me (cross fingers). It is clearing skin issues, including those in the scalp, increasing energy and reducing brain fog:

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Hi there SD,

Here's what Paddel and Carla posted about their use of this honey:

I find honey most beneficial for morgellons

Here's an old thread which discusses Manuka honey with a couple of places to purchase, some in the UK. Also discusses bandages with honey. Never have found them in US pharmacies.

Active Leptospermum Honey/Seaweed Bandages and Cream

Another UK site:

ManukaHoney.co.uk - Terms and conditions

They do have 500g for about 17 pounds for 16+ which does have medicinal strength. Also 20+ for 21 pounds.

Active Manuka Honey medical wound and digestive treatment.

I just found Jonsi's thread about Honey and Cinnamon--lots of info here:

Honey & cinnamon

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Yes, thanks for bringing the other links to the value of honey here. I am aware of the medicinal value of honey and there is a very interesting book I once read called, "Honey, Mud, Maggots and other Medical Marvels" describing it. What I took from it was that the medicinal value lied in the hydrogen peroxide and I'm sure other properties not mentioned. Here's another link to interesting information about honey and cinnamon:

Medicinal Properties of Honey and Cinnamon, Health and Lifestyle, 1stholistic.com, Holistic Living

Ayurveda-Sugar Cane-Medicinal properties

the only source I found without doing more searching (not that important to me to spend much time on it) about medicinal value of sugar is in the lower link. this is why I started the thread. I wonder what properties sugar contains which are actually medicinal or anti-bacterial....
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Old August 11th, 2009, 01:49 PM
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Yes, honey has some pretty wonderful properties and, as you say, the hydrogen peroxide is a major reason it works to heal wounds. If anyone needs a formula with herbs and raw honey for indigestion and heartbburn let me know. The herbalist I studied with shared it with our class. It works wonders for digestive problems.

Kritts, I think your first link in the post just above is the same one that Jonsi posted in her Cinnamon and Honey post. She just did not post the actual link and instead copied the information. Still it is pretty amazing, isn't it, what honey can do for the body? It is sometimes added into herbal formulas. The Chinese use cinnamon in many of their herbal formulas (depending on symptoms) which is often accompanied by honey fried licorice. Processing the licorice with honey removes some of the more toxic properties of raw licorice.

Probably the major medicinal properties of sugar are found in unrefined sugar, not in the white procesed stuff we normally buy in stores. I could be wrong about that though. Certainly, if I were lost in the wilderness with a deep wound and if nothing else were available except refined sugar I would give it a try. It probably would not hurt and might even help in some way. So thanks for sharing that information.
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You're welcome, TC...

I only posted the link because I think all of the information was very interesting...sorry, didn't see Carla's post on that.

I have raw organic sugar in the cab to use to make cookies, but never usually use sugar for anything myself. I would try it, though...

What's also interesting is that sugar could have medicinal properties, yet sugar is what many parasitic organisms feed off of, such as fungal candida. So I'd feel like ringing the dinner bell each time I used it ...

there is LOTS we do not know...but SO much shared info here, I'd say we know LOTS anyway.

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Great! Kritts, ...sounds promising...

This is what I've found...since we've been talking about viruses and how to eliminate them lately...

First Evidence of Honey’s Anti-Viral Effect

HONEY may be an effective treatment for cold sores. Researchers at the University of Wales have shown that the length of an attack, the pain and the healing time were all less for sores treated with honey compared to the widely used acyclovir cream.

Honey is known to have an antibacterial effect but the researchers say this is the first evidence that it has an anti-viral effect too. . .


Sixteen adults with a history of recurrent attacks of herpes took part in the research, and results showed that honey was 28 to 43 per cent better than acyclovir cream at treating the cold sores.

A similar effect was found for genital herpes and in the treatment of one patient with MRSA in a leg ulcer.

The researchers say: 'Honey is a traditional anti-bacterial therapy which appears to have enormous potential in solving new problems.'


Protecting Yourself Against Flu Viruses and Bacterial Infections


To avoid the sticky mess of smearing Manuka Honey all over your skin, a company called Honeymark has developed skin care products that contain Manuka Honey as a natural antimicrobial agent.

Honeymark products are not sticky but still offer the same advantages of using Manuka Honey.

Honeymark has developed a Hand Sanitizing Gel, Liquid Hand Soap and an Antiseptic Spray, all of which contain Manuka Honey.

These products are alcohol-free and very effective in destroying harmful viruses and bacteria on the surface of the skin.

In addition, Manuka Honey is considered a humectant which means it has a moisturizing effect on the skin.

** eating honey and putting on skin/lesions might help fight Morgs? AND the viral component we've found?

Kat
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