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Old October 26th, 2007, 11:08 PM
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Echinacea and Astragalus are two herbs which may help raise white blood count naturally:

Natural cold and flu fighters: over the centuries, traditional medical practitioners have used herbs to ward off infections and relieve cold and flu symptoms. Here are the remedies that have withstood the test of time | Natural Health | Find Articles

Astragalus in the TCM tradition is considered a tonic herb (an herb which wards off illness). So if you get sick this herb probably should be discontinued until well, as tonic herbs drive illness deeper into the body once acute illness sets in. A piece of raw astraglus cooked in homemade chicken soup adds extra immune building to the soup. Even better with some added dried "shi take" mushrooms, which also helps the immune system plus it is also reputed to help those with itchy skin:

Chinese Food Recipes - Chinese Mushrooms and its Health Benefits

Add some ginger and garlic, maybe some red pepper flakes and chopped fresh parsley added a minute or so before done cooking (over cooking parsley destroy its flavor and its vitamins) and you may ward off winter colds before they start. Herbs are wonderful. Used to build health, this is the key to true health in the TCM philosophy. Bon appetit!

According to the Chinese almanac the first frost started October 24 (for those who live in northern climes). Winter will start according to them two weeks from this date (essentially the first day of our winter, the solstice Dec.22 this year, is considered by the Chinese to be right in the middle of winter, and winter by their calculation is six weeks out on either side of that date). So time to build up the body with nourishing winter foods, especially in the colder areas of the world. Lamb is considered the most warming meat as is deer (don't think I would do that one with the muscle wasting disease out there). Root vegetables, and winter squash, sweet potatoes, are all good against the winter cold. Amazingly it is suggested that some coffee (coffee is a warming beverage while green tea is cooling) or some hot chocolate be drunk in the winter season. All to help keep the body warm naturally.

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Old October 27th, 2007, 02:21 AM
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good idea, tcm herbs great. to safely raise white, red bloodcell count naturally and safely help us tons i think. , (LC).
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TCM...good for the immune system and tasty. Can I eat at your place? and I can't ever get enough garlic. Any more herbal combinations?

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hi tcm, ladyc,bad_boy tcm can you tell us which is better on the herbs, is the liquid or capsules better or does it matter? also you are making me very hungry for some soup,it is getting pretty chilly here where i am at. 30s and 40s for lows at night and 60s to 70s for highs,so its the perfect time for soups. :P thank you for the links.

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hi tcm, ladyc,bad_boy tcm can you tell us which is better on the herbs, is the liquid or capsules better or does it matter? also you are making me very hungry for some soup,it is getting pretty chilly here where i am at. 30s and 40s for lows at night and 60s to 70s for highs,so its the perfect time for soups. :P thank you for the links.

bad_boy i just wanted to welcome you to this site, and i hope you have found some comfort and relief here. there are alot of members here to help you if you need anything or just want to talk to someone. gumball

thanks to a post from 2 many, i have discovered that geletin is NOT good for us, like in capsules. except for one antibiotic i would recommend oil. want a good oil to internally cleanse? will cost fourty bucks but very good: http://www.blackseedusa.com/ . read up on it, can judge for yourself. (LC).
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Old October 28th, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Hi Gumball ,

I am posting another website which has a more detailed recipe for the soup, no chicken in it, but the chicken with bones are easily added to your soup:

WhO SaiD LeaRniNg CaN't Be FuN?? - Science Through Herbs + Immune Soup


As you may see from the recipe on the above page the astragalus used in soup is the dried raw herb which comes in slices. With its popularity, even in Western herbalism, you may be able to easily obtain it in either a local herbal store which sells the bulk Western herbs or online. One place I could find with bulk astragalus still in stock is:

Astragalus Root Slices Organic

The slices may also be found on this site, bottom of the page:

Bulk Organic Herbs and Spices

Some of the places where I buy Western herbs online were out of the astraglus root, so have no experience buying from this site (doubtless out at other sites as at this time of year folks are looking for it to make their soups or make into teas produced from cooking raw herbs). There may be other online sites which also have bulk astraglus in pieces (not cut and sifted).

A way to get more of the calcium out of chicken bones when cooking soup is to add some apple cider vinegar to the soup when first starting to cook. The flavor of the vinegar will boil off by the time the soup is finished (about a couple of tablespoons--something I learned from a Mennonite cookbook). In case anyone reading this post is a novice at soup making from scratch I will mention that it is best to try to skim off the foam which forms on top of the liquid (from the chicken) when first cooking the soup. Gets rid of some of the toxins and improves the taste of the soup.

If using astragalus as an herbal addition capsules of powder exist (never have had capsules bother me personally, but everyone may be different). One way to make capsules into something which may be more like tea is to take the suggested capsules for a dose, open them up into a cup and add hot water to make a tea. This will almost be as strong as if making a tea of raw herbs. Astraglus may also be found in tincture or extract form. Sometimes all of these forms of astragalus may also be found in formulas with other immune building herbs. As far as I know there is no astraglus oil.

Hope this helps.

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tcm thaks for this. do you know why oil and vinegar used on salad? helps the vinegar absorb the nutrients of the vegtables as well where learn? laugh high school nutrition class on vegatarianism. they have to combine things like corn, beans, ie to make complete prottein. said with sald vinegar helps absorb nutrients. thanks for being such a treasure, (LC). p.s. this is just a theory i have from research of disease. but if build white red bloodcell count, help fight disease no? i know not keen on blackseed site perhaps. when some day , lol things improve they shall (trust me) i want to send you some stuff just to try from them. those who have and i have been most pleased, either cancer or morgellons disease. the purity of product, the international shipping, called in india or egypt or somewhere but very nice. purity of product good. this is why endorse site. i get nothing from it. found out the hot massage cream, (fromk site too, clearing up facial bumps, have three. like tigerbalm but hotter. ayway i love soup most perfect and excellent for winter and thanks for insight, (LC). p.s. tcm. sometimes we get tired of reading on this junk. please join sistersite franky made for fun can ask for what want in there we need help starting up. called ourgetawayspace.com. please join us too, for fun part of healing. i love you thanks.
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Hey TCM...just dropping by to say I love this thread and thought it's a great way to address a serious epicurean approach to alternative medicine. I think LC must have confused my useless comments with your educational ones. Sorry. I've been noticing that people occasionally make supportive comments when they enjoy people's posts. Sorry, Frank...I know you said

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hi ladyc thank you for the information about the capsules. i do remember reading something about it ,but couldnt find the post. i do have that link on my favorites,but just cant swing 40 bucks at this time. i will have to save it for a back up plan. i am still waiting for my ship to come in,but it never seems to dock. thanks gumball
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hi tcm thank you for the links. ones imagination is the key to a making a really good soup and the possibilities are endless. i learn something new everyday,i did not know about adding the apple cider vinegar to the chicken bones that is a good idea. thanks for the info on the herbs also. if i have to i will open up the capsule and just use the contents. some herbs i cant get past the smell or taste and if that is the case i may have to just take the capsule. hopefully the benefit will outway the risk. gumball
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