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| Maybe someone has posted these pages already, but if not I think they may interest those who would like to try herbs for themselves which could help kidney/liver function. There is a lot on the site. One thing that is mentioned which is a money saver is cooking the herbs to make the formula, then freeze the cooked herbs and recook to make another batch. Just use less water the next time to make a smaller amount. In TCM we get a batch of herbs to make three cups of tea. We add nine cups of water to the dry herbs and cook down to three cups of liquid after the cooked herbs are strained out. Next time it is seven to two. This is only an example as the herb formulas given here seem to have different directions. Just to give you an idea of how it may be done. So in case these pages have escaped your notice I am posting them here as making herbal teas is not excessively expensive. Teas are stronger than taking capsules. A good company to buy Western organic herbs in bulk is: http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/ They have excellent service in my experience. Something to keep in mind about herbs: the best results from herbs come from buying the best quality that is available. There are other good herbal companies on the internet. The one above just happens to be one I have ordered from in the past. The Clark site web pages with herbal formulas follows below. FYI when it says parts of herbs that means to measure by weight, so if you have 6 parts, 4 parts, 3 parts, you could make 6oz, 4oz, 3oz etc. to mix up the batch, or if you want to make a bigger batch you could use 12 oz, 8oz, 6 oz and so on. It is the ratio of herbs to each other which remains the same. How much you mix up by weight at one time is up to you. Worth the trouble to make your own herbal formulas as it saves a lot of money: http://www.parasite-cleanse.info/par...iver_herbs.php http://www.parasite-cleanse.info/par...ey_cleanse.php Other pages on this site may be helpful although you may not want to buy the products mentioned for the bowel program, liver flush, parasite cleanse from them as you may be able to find them less expensively elsewhere (also pushing the buttons leads to a German site, weird). Something to also to keep in mind if you are trying to save money, there are empty capsules and capsule machines where you can make your own capsules and save money by buying bulk herbal powders. About the HCl drops, I do not know what they are, so I suggest omitting. Sounds like a chemical. Also I would hesitate strongly doing liver flush on my own as I have heard of people getting stones caught in liver and then requiring surgery. Always store herbal teas in the refrigerator and use within a few days or freeze for later use if you cannot use all of it within a few days--if it bubbles around the top it is fermenting and should be discarded. You may warm again when using, especially if you are cold temperature wise. It just easier to digest than drinking cold (especially if older). The Chinese seem to feel it is okay to reheat herbal teas in the microwave for 30 seconds or so. Just make sure not to let herbs boil strongly, when reheating or when making the tea. Some oils are volatile and will be lost if the tea is boiled vigorously. Some people believe comfrey root may damage the liver so it may not be put into purchased formulas in the US though it may still be bought in bulk. Some herbalists still add their own to formulas as they believe the adverse effects are mitigated by the fact that it is not the only herb in the formula. http://www.herbsfirst.com/DrCformulaCatalog.html: *Concerning the warning label on comfrey: The FDA is requiring all the herb companies put a warning label on any product that has comfrey in it. The label says the following: Warning: External use only. Consuming this product can cause serious liver damage. This product contains Comfrey. Comfrey contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids, which may cause serious illness or death. This product should not be taken orally, used as a suppository, or applied to broken skin. For futher information contact the FDA at http://www.cfsan.fda.gov It is true that there are pyrrolizidine alkaloids in comfrey. Dr. Christopher taught and believed that herbs should be used in their entirety. He believed that the body is able to deal with small amounts of toxins in the herbs when the whole herb is used. Whole herbs are used in the formulas. No research was done by the FDA concerning the use of whole herbs - only that pyrrolizidine alkaloids alone cause liver damage. Here is an additional link to the FDA site concerning the use of comfrey: http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-ill.html If concerned then omit using it. Comfrey root in the purchased bulk formula may be why the button refers to a German site. Don't know. Yet another thing to keep in mind, if an herb causes an adverse reaction stop taking them as it might not agree with you. You may have some discomfort as herbs are cleansing, but if you experience severe pain or excessively loose stools, just be careful. Some loose stools may mean bowel cleansing from the herbs and in fact in TCM is encouraged, but then I have someone to monitor my pulse and make sure it is not excessive. Loose stools for long periods, as excessive diuretic action in the body may cause electrolyte imbalance. If there is no outside help then if trialing herbs suggest caution. best, tcm
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| Hey TCM - the HCl you mentioned is the chemical formula for hydrogen chloride (better know as hydrochloric acid). A somewhat educated guess on my part (although still just a guess) is that the HCl is used to initiate some sort of chemical reaction with the chemical compounds in the herbs. HCl is not as "unnatural" as one might think - it is the main component of the digestive "juices" we use to digest food. It is used pretty extensively in food processing and there are "food grade" products available. Most of the digestive enzyme supplements available use hydrochloric acid in addition to enzymes like pepsin and elastase to mimic natural digestive fluids in the body. The body's natural reaction to consuming food is to deposit liquid keratins to the lining of the stomach to protect the tissue from the digestive fluids (acids) produced to digest the food. |
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| Hi 2mf, Uh, I think I would rather just take a digestive enzyme. Which generally contains some betaine HCl and which at least is okay for the human body. Mine have no enzymes based on aspergillus though. Yeah, thought I remembered HCl from my chemistry days. Well, I have never heard of anyone selling liquid HCl for use in herbs so...Personally I would not try that. I often disagree with some of Hulda Clark's ideas. Seems as if we have been lab rats once too often if we are on this site. best, tcm
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| Just bumping up an old thread which does have some discussion of comfrey. This reminds me of a time I used one of the Dr. Christopher herbal formulas I had made myself which contained this herb. It was a formula you make with glycerin as the preservative. Well, I was taking an herbal formula from my TCM friend at the same time and both jars were in the refrigerator. So there I was, fogged with Morgellons. This was back in the early days of my illness) and so I grabbed a jar without looking carefully (this is why you always need to label jars, but even then I managed to mess up). I heated a cup for my morning dose of TCM herbs. Continuing in this fog I drank the cup after heating, wondering the whole time why it was so thick and strong. Wow, did I have some action later in the day...it did not make me get sick but it surely moved a lot out of my body. It looked as if the toilet was full of little white sticks. The glycerin formula was only supposed to be used a fourth of a cup at a time with water added to make a cup. LOL...I lived but...Actually I believe the Christopher formula I mistakenly used (which if made at home is very inexpensive) can help some aspects of Morgellons. Anyway both comfrey and chaparral (both very stronge herbs) can be used to treat serious illness, but I feel the comfrey is best used in formulas. I do not have time now but will try to add more information later. The chaparral definitely is not a long term herb and is not used in large amounts.
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| TCM, thanks for bringing chapperal back up, I forgot it had also been one item that would break me out. I belive when you see where it is, thats not a bad thing, chapperal persecutes this issue. The only problem with chapperal is you have to be careful with it, not too long or too much its powerful stuff. I was going back in time and remembering what made me feel better and what made skin issues appear, right now I am using these in unison just to see what happens. Since doing the F6 it seems like issues will not be extream as before F6 no matter what I take, so i can try this. I do not know if you can believe this but I am more lovely then before.LOL |
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