Veterinary Drugs

[Franky]

Look I am sorry but this is getting way out of hand now. First of all no one here is a doctor to begin with, or at least has given me valid proof of it. To preach natural products is one thing but now to recommending “prescribing” horse and animal medication and proper dosages etc… is a bit too much now.

To be honest as an adult you can take whatever you want, that’s up to you. Even then I have some major problems with that, but if you don’t care, then I could care less. But now involving children as well, well that’s where I have to draw the line.

I can’t have anymore post about medications not meant for humans. God forbid someone really gets ill or a child.

Anyone posting from here on will be deleted. Everyone is going to react differently esp. children and babies. I can’t take that risk here.

[fritolay66]

Thank you. My son and I are two in which suffered adverse reactions to these types of recommendations. Only after genetic testing in which many here do not have, we found out why we may have suffered severe ataxia and neurological symptoms. We both have a double positive mutation for the MAO-A. So in a quick summary, its like being on an MAO-I (inhibitor) and then taking this particular drug. Not good. And basically anything that is pharma and is cautioned against taking with MAO-I's, we have to stay far away from.

So for those of you out there, this mutation is actually quite common in CFS sufferers, and is found in a large part of the population as well. Just the other side of the coin for all to consider.

I don't want to knock anyone, just concerned.

Frito

[tcmgpt13]

I totally agree with you and with Franky. Wow, Frito, I can see how that particular mutation could cause you both to have a severe reaction to these types of drugs. I know it is possible to suffer severe reactions to any drug and it is important to keep this in mind before using anything, especially long term. I agree, as Franky stated, that adults can do anything they want as far as risks (though I hope they also do their research before doing that, as has Annesco), but when it involves babies and children (as has been recommended in one post) it becomes more than a little scary. I do not feel that speaking out and voicing concern is knocking anyone here, but is voicing an opinion which folks are always free to ignore.

quote=fritolay66;89411]Thank you. My son and I are two in which suffered adverse reactions to these types of recommendations. Only after genetic testing in which many here do not have, we found out why we may have suffered severe ataxia and neurological symptoms. We both have a double positive mutation for the MAO-A. So in a quick summary, its like being on an MAO-I (inhibitor) and then taking this particular drug. Not good. And basically anything that is pharma and is cautioned against taking with MAO-I's, we have to stay far away from.

So for those of you out there, this mutation is actually quite common in CFS sufferers, and is found in a large part of the population as well. Just the other side of the coin for all to consider.

I don't want to knock anyone, just concerned.

Frito[/quote]

[Fables429]

I agree that natural is always better, unless you are at the "last resort" state.

What are good herbs for this?

I have been taking Tumeric/Garlic/Goldenseal/Vit C/Baking Soda/Grapeseed/Ginko Biloba/MSM/other supplements.

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What are peoples thoughts on Mustard Seed and Wormwood?

---I also know everything should be taken in moderation--- (Common Sense)

[neoneoneocortex]

Originally Posted by Franky

to recommending “prescribing” horse and animal medication and proper dosages etc… is a bit too much now.

But now involving children as well, well that’s where I have to draw the line.

I agree, especially as to children, however, I have used veterinary injectable B complex on and off over a period of about seven years, often daily for months at a time, and I've had no problems. I've also used veterinary antibiotics a few times, with success.

The caveat is that the purity safeguards are nowhere near as stringent as with human medications. With some of the antibiotics, the result could be very toxic. I've bought vet antibiotics also to find out they were expired, and had to dispose of them also. Not everyone will think to check, though.

The problem is and will be that people will have less choice as the CDC has declared all M sufferers mentally ill, docs were hesitant to accept any of this beforehand, but now, who knows. Also with the failing economy, many losing insurance, etc.

I doubt I'll ever have a problem getting "real" treatments, as my GF knows plenty of docs, but not everyone has that advantage.

[neoneoneocortex]

Originally Posted by Fables429

What are peoples thoughts on...Wormwood?

Be careful. Thujone, the active component, might better be found in Formby's Furniture Finish Remover than in someone's body. I won't touch the stuff myself.
It's a GABA-A receptor antagonist. Benzodiazepine drugs act on GABA-A, so it's like the opposite of a valium, and it can in fact produce seizures by this action, in sufficient amounts. I have no doubt it's toxic to all kinds of things.

[scabdraggr]

Incorrect about the reference to vet meds and them being held to a lower standard.Not true as vetmeds are always held to a higher manufacturing standard.At least here in the USA,France, and other drugs made for worldwide sales.The proper meds that are affective on M aren't available for human use.Please recheck your sources that you use for info.