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Originally Posted by Sadsack  My gosh, so many ideas here, too much to respond to in an organized and thorough fashion...so I will just throw things out as they present themselves in my mind.
First - prions - very interesting idea! They are very mysterious (here's a discussion on them:
I have to admit it is too complicated for me to try to put together except in the most superficial manner.
The book about related phenomena from 10 years ago. Two on the list were chronic fatigue syndrome and Gulf war syndrome. Both are definitely related to Morgellons, if not the same thing. As I mentioned in another post, Dr. Wymore applied for a grant to study Gulf War Syndrome to see if it IS, in fact, Morgellons. He said that all of the symptoms were the same as Morgellons, but without the fibers. He speculated that no one looked for the tiny embedded fibers and that it should be investigated. He was turned down.
Maybe this huge mosaic of diseases and phenomena are in fact related, and have at the core the same primary cause.
How on earth are we going to put it all together?? We need a team of physicists, chemists, biologists, clergymen, psychics, ufologists, environmental toxicologists, computer geniuses, and more to do it!
I had other thoughts but they evaporated...
Oh - one other thing - there are some discussion sites that focus on a wide range of topics, such as Rumor Mills and Above Top Secret. Then there is Rense that has speakers from all these areas on a regular basis.
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hI Sadsack , i imagine this is a lot at once, indeed this is research of many totally different things, that little people even know about mainstream.
One example is alien abductions, who the hell would take only the name already seriously ? This explains why no serious academic (excluded maybe John Mack who was run over by a car in 2004) would go into the subject seriously, or
no university would spend money and time to investigate this with the though in mind that its a serious thing, and that the subject of aliens , is NOTHING BUT DECEPTION TO MAKE IT SOUND REDICULOUS
traumatic reactions of brain heart and sweat studied on harvard ...
On harvard mc nally and susan clancy investigated it only in connection to recovered memories , to check if traumatic reactions that go together with testemonies in court like recovered memories for instance of sexual abuse ,could be considered as a proof that the sexual abuse really took place.
they found that alien abductees were also heavily traumatized , even more than vietnam veterans with war traumas !
So they concluded that trauma can be the result of "imagination" ....WHY THIS TRAUMATIC REACTIONS WERE PRESENT THEY SAID THEY COULD NOT EXPLAIN BUT THEY DID NOT WONDER FURTHER ON THIS SUBJECT EVEN IF THEY ADMITTED THE RESULTS WERE SURPRISING
YOUR REMARK ON GULF WAR SYNDROM CHRONIN FATIGUE IS VERY INTERESTING , i will check out more on dr wymore , and later today try to put something on paper, maybe to contact him ...
TOTALLY CORRECT IS WHEN YOU SAY
We need a team of physicists, chemists, biologists, clergymen, psychics, ufologists, environmental toxicologists, computer geniuses, and more to do it! Indeed only interdiciplinairy reasearch into all this , will be able to provide some answers, and that implies ofcourse that all the victims and abducteess and patiens with all kind of mysterious deseases avoid all the typical speculations on from what planet the aliens are comming or what departement of secret service is hunting them ...this is ALSO THE RESULT OF DECEPTION AND CONFUSION DELIBERATELY CAUSED BY THIS DECEPTIVE SYSTEM (just a name i give it to sound at least neutral )
About the article on prions you posted, it indeed illustrates perfectly the CONTRAVERSY , that is on prions as contaminating desease , i meanwhile checked prion desease in the past , and there was sheep srapies or something, but that never before ever was making humans ill .....this cross over contamination is curious , and ofcourse much more curious is how
PROTEIN FOLDING IS PROVOCED WITHOUT DNA SOME MORE ON PRIONS AS EXAMPLE FOR SELF ASEMBLING NANOTECHNOLOGY ELECTRONICS , the similarities are striking, this seems to be the way prions grow , the way protiens fold , but also the way nanotechnological fibers can be made to grow and used as nanoelctronics BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | 'Nanowire' breakthrough hailed NANO WIRES SELFASSEMBLY AND PRION PROTIENS
'Nanowire' breakthrough hailed
Microscopic wires which could help form the miniature technology of the future have been constructed using the basic building blocks of living things.
Experts in nanotechnology, who are trying to come up with ways of wiring the next generation of microscopic electronic circuits, believe that protein folding could hold the key to progress.
Prion protein
The latest research, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, focused on a "prion" protein produced by a type of yeast
__________________________________________ SOME GENERAL INFO MORE ON PRIONS AND INFECTIONS RECENT DECADES In which i find interesting not only the unexplained mechanism but also the
onset in the late seventies and the increase over 80 ties , this is the typical pattern of all these "so called modern hysterias "
Homepage | CDC BSE About BSE Beef cattle grazing. (Image courtesy USDA)
BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) is a progressive neurological disorder of cattle that results from infection by an unusual transmissible agent called a prion. The nature of the transmissible agent is not well understood. Currently, the most accepted theory is that the agent is a modified form of a normal protein known as prion protein. For reasons that are not yet understood, the normal prion protein changes into a pathogenic (harmful) form that then damages the central nervous system of cattle[.
Research indicates that the first probable infections of BSE in cows occurred during the 1970's with two cases of BSE being identified in 1986. BSE possibly originated as a result of feeding cattle meat-and-bone meal that contained BSE-infected products from a spontaneously occurring case of BSE or scrapie-infected sheep products. Scrapie is a prion disease of sheep. There is strong evidence and general agreement that the outbreak was then amplified and spread throughout the United Kingdom cattle industry by feeding rendered, prion-infected, bovine meat-and-bone meal to young calves. The BSE epidemic in the United Kingdom peaked in January 1993 at almost 1,000 new cases per week. Through the end of 2007, more than 184,500 cases of BSE had been confirmed in the United Kingdom alone in more than 35,000 herds. There exists strong epidemiologic and laboratory evidence for a causal association between a new human prion disease called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) that was first reported from the United Kingdom in 1996 and the BSE outbreak in cattle. The
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