[ladycolorado]

Originally Posted by niecy

Hey LC and others,

I just want to add here that there is a couple of other ways I think people can contract lyme disease.

Last summer my daughters house became terribly infested with fleas. I have a family friend who works for Orkin, and she had already had the house treated three times by our local exterminator.

When I called my friend he was adamant that we get rid of the fleas asap. But...was weary about taking on the job himself. He says it is next to impossible to kill them once they get that bad....and they, like some parasites, go into a cyst form to preserve themselves.

The point is.....he told me that you can get lyme disease from fleas!!(btw, my 5 yr old grandson was sick and went to doc, and I mentioned lyme because of the flea bites, like probably 100, and he went ahead and "treated" him, just in case )

I have googled fleas and lyme and apparently they are indeed a vector. I live in the southeast....and there are seemingle millions of deer in my area. I am sure that all the animals, insects, and birds carry lyme disease, and I am almost positive that my kids and grandkids, and husband have it.

I wonder this though, can PEOPLE be carriers of lyme as they are with AIDS and other diseases, and not be symptomatic themselves. The reason I wonder is because I am positive my husband has had ticks on him, as we have pulled many off of him, but not in decades have I found one on myself.....yet I have tested "positive" and he shows no signs of the disease.

Here is a link that I think is one posibility of my positive results, and I am sure most medical professionals would disagree....but lately I don't put too much stock in the medical professionals of this world.

RECOVERY OF LYME SPIROCHETES BY PCR IN SEMEN SAMPLES OF PREVIOUSLY DIAGNOSED LYME DISEASE PATIENTS

Just something for folks to think about that know for sure they have never been tic bit.....but there are many other vectors for lyme besides this theory.

Niecy
God Bless You All

Niecy CHECK this post I did! I think I got Lyme From Headlice:

Important CDC Paper: high virulent clone variant of Lyme

Now I saw this paper submitted on the CDC website in the New and Emerging Infectious Diseases section under the Ahead Of Print link. Apparently there is a clonal variant of Lyme Which has HIGH virulence called Borellia Burdgdofori Sensu Strictu. What is interesting is in a section of this paper also says that arthropods carry this, NOT a specific type of tick carry this pathogen. What is an arthropod? Basically ANYTHING with an exoskeloton.

Here is the American Heritage Dictionary Definition Of an Arthhropod:


NOUN:
Any of numerous invertebrate animals of the phylum Arthropoda, including the insects, crustaceans, arachnids, and myriapods, that are characterized by a chitinous exoskeleton and a segmented body to which jointed appendages are articulated in pairs.

Now some have insects recalled in their contraction of Morgellons Disease some do not. A mosquito however is an arthropod, snow fleas are an arthropod, mites are an arthropod, fleas I mean think about that. I even once talked to a former soldier from Iraq who got Morgellons Disease from their account from a scorpion. I have also heard of cases from spiders and centipedes.

This would explain why Lyme Disease is becoming so rampant. Remember Most Lyme testing is 90 percent inaccurate. I had Igenex. Borellia showed up but in the United States supposed to have TWO double starred bands. On each test, I had a plus one on one of each of the double starred bands (the second band double starred for each test antibodies and borrelia), which meant it was still present but at a low level. On the other bands I had borellia and the antibodies to it all over the place. In any other country in the world tests results alone would have been full blown Lyme only requires ONE double starred band. A Lyme literate doc does not go by just test results alone however.

The only really reliable Lyme test is Igenex or perhaps Elisa. Most Lyme tests being 90 percent innacurate, will NEVER pick it up. May as well have the sample flushed down the toilet. Some doctors go by test results alone, by the two double starred band criteria (that is if EVEN an accurate test) . But ASK yourself should healthy people have borellia at ALL? No. Also remember is it possible some herbally treating Lyme can wipe the evidence of the borellia clean or to where non detectible even though it is still there? Just a thought there.

Well what IS Clonal? That is an odd term. The Online Medical Dictionary defines it as this:
clonal
Pertaining to a clone species.


Anyway, this article could explain why Lyme Disease is becoming more widespread, why Morgellons Disease is becoming more widespread, and why some with Morgellons recall insect bites from insects, arachnids, etc OTHER than just ticks (as Morgellons has been linked to Lyme Disease).

This paper also states"The highly pathogenic clonal complex A has a prominent presence on both continents, which suggests its success in finding ecologic niches which enable it to infect a broad range of host and vector species. The same genetic basis of the ecologic invasiveness of the osC-A may be underlying its high virulence to humans."

Now this would explain ALOT regarding the many bizarre tales of how people contracted Morgellons Disease. It would also explain how Lyme Disease is becoming more widespread. I am glad I saw this CDC paper, it solves some mysteries.


I will provide the link to this paper.

Wide Distribution of a High Virulence Borellia Burdgoferi Clone In Europe and North America:
http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/14/7/pdfs/07-0880.pdf .


(LC)