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Old May 20th, 2008, 12:19 AM
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Hey TCM – great posts and interesting reading. I think that GM foods and nanotech kind of go “hand in hand”, at least in some cases. Nanometer sized particles are being used as DNA carriers now (apparently instead of agrobacterium) for genetically modifying plants with foreign genes. Nanotechnology is in food now too as you pointed out, but it hasn’t been there as long as GM crops (at least as far as I can tell based on the information – the nanotech in foods is being done very quietly apparently as noted in the last link in this post, so it may have been in food longer than we know). The hollow "tubes" from either technology (and a lot more stuff) could potentially apply to morgellons I think.

I think the combination of GM foods and nanotech in the human body (or either one by itself) could be producing a lot of things that scientists, doctors or anyone else really have no understanding or concept of. Both of the end results of these “technologies” impact many of the same nutrients that the human body uses normally when they enter the human body (or plants as the case may be) – things like zinc, magnesium, copper, sulfur, amino acids, etc. (basically things that make up the human extracellular matrix (ECM) as you noted in a previous post on this thread). The skin symptoms of Morgellons are manifested in the ECM which is basically what makes up the tissue in the human body. And it seems quite possible to me that these “bits” of foreign DNA and other foreign substances could wreak all kinds of havoc on the natural processes of the human body as well as the skin.

I feel pretty certain that none of the people doing this are by any means experts on the molecular structure of the human body (and even if they were no one really understands it very deeply when all things are considered). I'm sure that most are people that are highly trained on very narrow specific areas of biology and they have little if any understanding about how these things may truly impact the human body. On another note (but maybe relevant to nanotech too), some GM crops are being developed with keratin and collagen genes and could potentially have entered the food supply (very similar to the same collagen and keratin genes that are responsible for creating the physical structure of the human body). With both of these technologies permeating the food supply, I think there are all kinds of valid possibilities for unknown and unexpected problems to result in the human body at a genetic / molecular level – the body may not be able to use this foreign genetic material properly, but may be trying to (which might explain a lot).

One thing about the nanotechnology is that it appears to be even less regulated and monitored than GMOs (which pretty much means that NOBODY is watching the farm - and I thought the GMO stuff was poorly regulated and monitored). While all this technology is pretty amazing, I am more than certain that the people working on this are far from perfect and that there have been and will be many more “mistakes” made in understanding and controlling these "technologies". These people simply have no true idea of the impact of all of this on human health, especially the combined effect (and the regulatory agencies are completely failing to protect public health in regard to these technologies – they don’t even require any testing on most of this stuff before it enters the food supply)! It only takes one idiot or careless person to make a mistake of monumental proportions with these technologies and the results could potentially be catastrophic (and they don't seem to have any foresight of the potential for damage these technologies could have simply from nature being what it is - like cross pollenization, cross contamination from processing machinery, etc.). And we're talking about something that you need an electron microscope to even see, which makes me even less comfortable that any of these people truly know what is going on with these technologies and how they might impact health! How many thousands of cases are there where "scientists" told us that something was impossible, and then we find out that they were wrong?

This link has some pretty good overall information on nanotech in foods and how it might be used to “further the effectiveness” of the GM food “agents” that are already in our food now (with an excerpt just below it – I think you linked to the same site in another thread on how “yummy” our food will be with nanotech – maybe “furthering the effectiveness” is code for killing us quicker with more unregulated experimentation):

Nano-foods: future or fiction? - Elsevier Food International

The next step will be to predict, control and improve the agricultural production. Consequently, the combination of DNA-techniques and nanotechnology may offer opportunities. What to think of new nutrition-delivery systems using molecular robotics? These so-called nanoscale transportation vehicles could carry active agents, namely those that resulted from DNA-controlled crop production, more precisely and efficiently to the human cells and parts where they are required.


The next link discusses how nanotechnology may be used to improve food “security”, but I think it gives a pretty good overview of some of the biological aspects of nanotech in foods. Here’s the link with an excerpt below it – the excerpt identifies the sizes of nano, DNA and proteins and discusses how nanotechnology can be used to manipulate DNA in organisms:

http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/jan102008/22.pdf

Recently, nanotechnology has been attracting increased attention worldwide. Drexler2 first coined the term ‘nanotechnology’ in 1981. It encompasses research and applications of assembling atoms and molecules into desired new systems, on atom-by-atom or molecule-by-molecule basis, incorporating specific features, with one or more critical dimensions measuring between 0.1 and ~100 nm (1 nm = 10–9 m). By comparison, a typical strand of DNA is only 2 nm wide and proteins are 1–20 nm in size.

By comparison, a typical strand of DNA is only 2 nm wide and proteins are 1–20 nm in size. Nanotechnology involves two crucial devices: the nanocomputer, which is a molecular machine capable of executing a string of instructions, and the nanoassembler, a device at the atomic level, which contains a nanocomputer in its core, and can precisely arrange atoms on an atom-by-atom basis and manufacture any desired form of molecules, as Atomic Force Microscopy uses electric fields to ‘push’ atoms into position. Development of the nano-assembler technology is quite similar to that of recombinant DNA technology, in which in every cell, the ribosomes copy DNA into RNA, and feed this RNA into the ribosomes, like many instructions being fed into a computer, and then gather the correct amino acids to create the proteins, which make up the physical nature.


The next link has some good overall information including a chart showing how nanotechnology is / will be used in the food chain from genetically modifying plants to packaging:

Nanotechnology food coming to a fridge near you


I really think the federal regulatory agencies (FDA, USDA, EPA, etc.) that are supposed to be protecting the food supply and insuring that it is safe are deliberately refusing to do what is obviously their duty – either out of incompetence or corruption or both. These agencies are truly allowing these companies to experiment with every man woman and child as the “lab rats” and no one really even has a basic understanding of how these things may impact our health, especially in the long term (and even worse, they don’t even seem to have any concern about public health as long as they can all make a buck!) Being a believer in God, I personally can’t see where He could be too pleased with all of these people pretending they are Him, especially being motivated by pure greed as they appear to be. I think this technology has exceeded the intelligence of the people involved and they truly have no idea (or concern) of what they are doing from an overall perspective in the grand scheme of life and health – they’re just focused on beating each other to the pot of gold they see as the ultimate goal with no regard for the potentially irreparable damage of what they are doing.

I hope I don't hurt myself trying to climb down off my soapbox now - I don't remember it being this high when I climbed up here.

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